Is this torture?

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Without question, torture.

I think I have those boots.

[SlaveNoMore]

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
hard to say.



and suck it--I was googling for images.

Is that Beals or JHo in her homage music video?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
hard to say.



and suck it--I was googling for images.

Her feet seem to be below her head and there doesn't seem to be any cellophane involved.

That was for the benefit of the people remembering seeing the shirt plastered to her lithe body and her full, erect-nippled breasts and not really looking at the picture.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Can I change my vote?

who changed my vote?

Ty or Penske--who's playing Katherine Harris today?

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
This is the CIA's definition of waterboarding:

• "The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt."

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Is this torture? Vote in the poll, and add comments and explanation if you like.

No. Torture would be to convince someone that he has died and gone to heaven. And that Allah gyped him out of 70 of the 72 "virgins. " And that the only two Allah could find was the two the decedent was locked in a room with: Paigow and patentpara.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
No. Torture would be to convince someone that he has died and gone to heaven. And that Allah gyped him out of 70 of the 72 "virgins. " And that the only two Allah could find was the two the decedent was locked in a room with: Paigow and patentpara.

Who said anything about who the prisoner is?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
This is the CIA's definition of waterboarding:

• "The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt."

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Is this torture? Vote in the poll, and add comments and explanation if you like.

There were twice as many votes in the "Who Likes Shape Shifter?" poll. Just sayin'.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt."

I don't get it. If you put cellophane on your head and pour water on it, how does that "unavoidably" cause a gag reflex? Unless the cellophane is stuck in my mouth, I am so not going to gag.

Pussies.

Or maybe I don't have a strong gag reflex.


(Yeah, yeah, "How YOU doing")

[Shape Shifter]

We used to think it was torture:

• A Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, was tried in 1947 for carrying out a form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian during World War II, and was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. [2] The charges against Asano included other abuses of prisoners. [1]
  
  On the issue of waterboarding, the United States charged Yukio Asano, a Japanese officer on May 1 to 28, 1947, with war crimes. The offenses were recounted by John Henry Burton, a civilian victim: After taking me down into the hallway they laid me out on a stretcher and strapped me on. The stretcher was then stood on end with my head almost touching the floor and my feet in the air. They then began pouring water over my face and at times it was impossible for me to breathe without sucking in water. The torture continued and continued. Yukio Asano was sentenced to fifteen years of hard labor. [2] (p.10378)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
We used to think it was torture:

Then we invented cellophane, which sort of changed the character of the whole thing, no?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
Then we invented cellophane, which sort of changed the character of the whole thing, no?

Indeed. Greater effect with less water.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Indeed. Greater effect with less water.

It seems to be the difference between "answer, or I pull your nails out", and "answer, or I show you pictures of people having their nails pulled out."

One's torture. The other's sort of like an Alec Baldwin movie.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by bilmore
It seems to be the difference between "answer, or I pull your nails out", and "answer, or I show you pictures of people having their nails pulled out."

One's torture. The other's sort of like an Alec Baldwin movie.

I don't get this debate. It's a trick. They don't lose fingernails. They aren't starved. They aren't deprived of sleep for days. They are tricked into thinking they are drowning, but they aren't. Kind of like when the police tell a suspect that their accomplice has ratted them out, so they turn on the guy. Ha ha, gotcha.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by LessinSF
I don't get this debate. It's a trick. They don't lose fingernails. They aren't starved. They aren't deprived of sleep for days. They are tricked into thinking they are drowning, but they aren't. Kind of like when the police tell a suspect that their accomplice has ratted them out, so they turn on the guy. Ha ha, gotcha.

It damages their self-esteem, and makes them think that our society doesn't value their contribution to humanity. Hence, it must be torture.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
It damages their self-esteem, and makes them think that our society doesn't value their contribution to humanity. Hence, it must be torture.

Right. And then they'll never be able to do trig.