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Old 07-08-2005, 02:04 AM   #2986
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Cite please?
That was me. Bilmore. Just a few minutes ago.
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That was me. Bilmore. Just a few minutes ago.
Are the original Bilmore?
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:28 AM   #2989
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"Centuries ago words were written to be a call and a spur to the faithful servants of Truth and Justice: 'Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar.""

Try to picture Pelosi or Reid or Kennedy saying this.

Then try to convince people that DU is inhabited by non-core D's.



With a straight face, I mean.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:49 AM   #2990
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"Centuries ago words were written to be a call and a spur to the faithful servants of Truth and Justice: 'Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar.""

Try to picture Pelosi or Reid or Kennedy saying this.

Then try to convince people that DU is inhabited by non-core D's.



With a straight face, I mean.
With Byrd as the Conscience of your party what do you expect? Did you know he was a Kleagle in the Klan?
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:01 AM   #2991
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Natalya. She was nineteen. And those lips . . .
Er...Bilmore...the Charge of the Right Brigade to rescue Spanky was a few weeks ago.

Didn't you get the Rove memo???



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But. It. Doesn't. Work.
For that matter, neither do Republicans, at least according to [DNC Head] Howard Dean.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:51 AM   #2993
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Do you not understand the difference between (a) invading Afghanistan and (b) giving more support to the Northern Alliance? Or are you only pretending to be stupid?
Can I start with what they had in common?

Clinton did neither. He did apparently think his suceesor should do them, and this planning was "everything" he could do?
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:53 AM   #2994
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"Amid all the optimism surrounding Blair, Bono & Geldolf doing Live 8 and G 8, and the award of that most wonderful and pacific of international institutions and global brotherhood -- the Olympics -- what a grim thing to have happened.

Violence rarely gets us anywhere; the PLO, the IRA, the SLA, among others have achieved so little with their terrorism. If the London bombings are the work of an Al Qaeda offshoot, then you have to fairly say, in the same way we condemn other's terror, this is in part the result of Bush's War on Iraq."

-- Jann Wenner, July 7, 2005
First Tom Hayden, now Jann Wenner. Has anyone heard NFH's take on the attacks?
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Old 07-08-2005, 10:35 AM   #2995
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Tomorrow.

Rehnquist and Stevens.

(God, I love rumors.)
Why wait until now?

BTW, where have you been? Taxpayers cut off your internet?
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Old 07-08-2005, 10:58 AM   #2996
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Why wait until now?

BTW, where have you been? Taxpayers cut off your internet?
Is Stevens in good health? Because he doesn't seem the type to step down to me. I don't think Rehnquist would either, were he not sick.
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:08 AM   #2997
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Is Stevens in good health? Because he doesn't seem the type to step down to me. I don't think Rehnquist would either, were he not sick.
Stevens is just old, but no ailments I'm aware of.

Rehnquist has the C, but he was supposed to be dead by now as a result, and he's not, so I suspect he'll stick it out. While I agree Rehnquist wouldn't step down earlier than necessary, one might think him sufficiently concerned with the institution no to leave it in the lurch were he to die suddenly (which may mean he doesn't expect to).
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:21 AM   #2998
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Stevens is just old, but no ailments I'm aware of.

Rehnquist has the C, but he was supposed to be dead by now as a result, and he's not, so I suspect he'll stick it out. While I agree Rehnquist wouldn't step down earlier than necessary, one might think him sufficiently concerned with the institution no to leave it in the lurch were he to die suddenly (which may mean he doesn't expect to).
I actually hope Rehnquist doesn't step down, if only for his own sake. His wife died already, and according to media reports, he has made the court his life.

I've seen people between 40-75 my whole life who kicked the bucket right after voluntarily "retiring", and I sometimes think its because they honestly could not figure out what else they were supposed to do... so it must be time to die. And I'm being serious here. I once worked with an early 40s law enforcer who up and left with his fiancee to Florida to go live the poor life on the beach. A month later, we got word back that he was dead of some ridiculous cause or another. Heart attack maybe? I forget.

Remember the old guy in the Shawshank Redemption who couldn't figure out his new place in the world when he was released? Sort of like that.

So all I'm saying is that maybe Rehnquist should sit down with Bush, Frist and even Reid, and they can discuss (in complete confidence) what to do when he's gone. But no way do I ever suggest that a hard worker retire. Too often, they don't know what to do when they do, and its asking them to commit suicide.

Than again, if we put him in a nursing home with Bilmore, maybe they could be roomies.
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I actually hope Rehnquist doesn't step down, if only for his own sake. His wife died already, and according to media reports, he has made the court his life.

I've seen people between 40-75 my whole life who kicked the bucket right after voluntarily "retiring", and I sometimes think its because they honestly could not figure out what else they were supposed to do... so it must be time to die. And I'm being serious here. I once worked with an early 40s law enforcer who up and left with his fiancee to Florida to go live the poor life on the beach. A month later, we got word back that he was dead of some ridiculous cause or another. Heart attack maybe? I forget.

Remember the old guy in the Shawshank Redemption who couldn't figure out his new place in the world when he was released? Sort of like that.

So all I'm saying is that maybe Rehnquist should sit down with Bush, Frist and even Reid, and they can discuss (in complete confidence) what to do when he's gone. But no way do I ever suggest that a hard worker retire. Too often, they don't know what to do when they do, and its asking them to commit suicide.

Than again, if we put him in a nursing home with Bilmore, maybe they could be roomies.
On the other hand, there's a lot to do in the world besides writing opinions or, for that matter, posts.

With that, I have decided that it is time to announce my own retirement. At the end of the day, I will sign off for good.

Much as I've enjoyed the old thrust and parry here, and come to respect those who enjoy a good substantive debate (and even seem open to occassionally changing their mind), my plan is to be spending a lot more time out on the farm with my family and a lot less time working and, of course, proscrastinating and delaying work (which is what I do here). I wish you all good debates on zoning, 401(k)s, and the Middle East. May your Penske socks be few, may Hank and Bilmore be sober, and may the good guy (that's you, Ty) always win in the end.

I know there will be a bruising debate to fill my spot here, and I only ask that you all think first of the institution, and not of partisan politics.
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"Amid all the optimism surrounding Blair, Bono & Geldolf doing Live 8 and G 8, and the award of that most wonderful and pacific of international institutions and global brotherhood -- the Olympics -- what a grim thing to have happened.

Violence rarely gets us anywhere; the PLO, the IRA, the SLA, among others have achieved so little with their terrorism. If the London bombings are the work of an Al Qaeda offshoot, then you have to fairly say, in the same way we condemn other's terror, this is in part the result of Bush's War on Iraq."

-- Jann Wenner, July 7, 2005
This from the same man who held a press conference to announce his bisexuality a few years back, which he then later recanted. Does anyone have a link to what Joan Baez thinks?

If you think the London attack would not have happened but for the Iraq War... fuck, I've run out of insults and ways to malign you as a goddamned idiot.
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