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11-10-2004, 05:28 PM
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Shape Shifter
You're not going to get that by drilling in Alaska. It won't change our dependence on foreign oil at all.
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Speaking of foreign dependence, these were the largest suppliers of foreign oil in 2002:
Saudi Arabia: 16.9%
Mexico: 15.1%
Canada: 15.0%
Venezuela: 14.4%
Iraq: 11.4%
Nigeria: 5.9.%
Algeria/Kuwait/Qatar: 2.7%
It truly amazes me how little is ever discussed about Venezuela and Nigeria. Canada and Mexico are never mentioned. |
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11-10-2004, 05:37 PM
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#3137
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I'm tired of hearing "divider" as synonymous for "oh fuck, I know we lost big, but what do you mean you aren't going to pursue our agenda?"
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Kerry lost by a field goal, 38-35. A corpse with all but a French accent came within a hair of defeating a wartime president.
But if you apply the soft bigotry of low expectations, and you will, Bush hit a grand slam.
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11-10-2004, 05:40 PM
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#3138
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Kerry lost by a field goal, 38-35. A corpse with all but a French accent came within a hair of defeating a wartime president.
But if you apply the soft bigotry of low expectations, and you will, Bush hit a grand slam.
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C'mon now. Bush had to basically beat Frenchy AND Hollywood.
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11-10-2004, 05:42 PM
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#3139
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I am beyond a rank!
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Speaking of foreign dependence, these were the largest suppliers of foreign oil in 2002:
Saudi Arabia: 16.9%
Mexico: 15.1%
Canada: 15.0%
Venezuela: 14.4%
Iraq: 11.4%
Nigeria: 5.9.%
Algeria/Kuwait/Qatar: 2.7%
It truly amazes me how little is ever discussed about Venezuela and Nigeria. Canada and Mexico are never mentioned.
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How little is discussed/mentioned in what context? If you read about US oil imports, you see plenty about Venezuela, Nigeria, Mexico, Canada, and any number of other places (like Norway). Writers on these issues express concern about the instability of Nigeria and, especially recently, Venezuela. Canada has enormous production potential if they can figure out how to get oil out of the.... I think it's "tar sands", or some such thing.
Are you suggesting that US dependence on the Mideast for oil is overstated? That would be a strange thing to say. Because despite all the other sources, Saudi Arabia is the biggest supplier and has the greatest influence over prices.
More importantly, Saudi Arabia has the biggest reserves. Reserves in other countries are dwindling so that Saudi oil dominance will only grow.
National Geo ran an interesting article on this a few months ago. You can read it next time you take a crap at my house. |
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11-10-2004, 05:43 PM
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#3140
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Speaking of foreign dependence, these were the largest suppliers of foreign oil in 2002:
Saudi Arabia: 16.9%
Mexico: 15.1%
Canada: 15.0%
Venezuela: 14.4%
Iraq: 11.4%
Nigeria: 5.9.%
Algeria/Kuwait/Qatar: 2.7%
It truly amazes me how little is ever discussed about Venezuela and Nigeria. Canada and Mexico are never mentioned.
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"We" the board or "we" the American people? The political crisis in Venezuela was a hot topic in Houston for quite a while precicely for that reason. The initial increase in oil prices in 2002 was partially because of the effective halt on exports from Venezuela due to labor disputes. The recall election of Hugo Chavez probably should have had more attention nationally than it did. As for Mexico, Pemex just went through a massive overhaul this week, and everyone in town is keeping an eye on things there. Houston does more business with Africa than any other city in the nation.
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11-10-2004, 05:43 PM
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World Ruler
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Speaking of foreign dependence, these were the largest suppliers of foreign oil in 2002:
Saudi Arabia: 16.9%
Mexico: 15.1%
Canada: 15.0%
Venezuela: 14.4%
Iraq: 11.4%
Nigeria: 5.9.%
Algeria/Kuwait/Qatar: 2.7%
It truly amazes me how little is ever discussed about Venezuela and Nigeria. Canada and Mexico are never mentioned.
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You probably noticed the price spikes when there was recent political unrest in Venezuela. I think Chavez is an idiot, but we haven't been making any friends down there, either. Nigeria is an emerging African nation, but there are frequent clashes between Christians and Muslims (the most popular name for boys in 2002 was "Osama," I think).
Mexico and Canada? NAFTA?
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11-10-2004, 05:45 PM
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You probably noticed the price spikes when there was recent political unrest in Venezuela. I think Chavez is an idiot, but we haven't been making any friends down there, either. Nigeria is an emerging African nation, but there are frequent clashes between Christians and Muslims (the most popular name for boys in 2002 was "Osama," I think).
Mexico and Canada? NAFTA?
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Quit it, y'all. Your facts are not fitting his theory. Bad RT! Bad Lizard!
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11-10-2004, 05:47 PM
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#3143
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World Ruler
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Quit it, y'all. Your facts are not fitting his theory. Bad RT! Bad Lizard!
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I think we're probably better positioned to learn of these matters casually. When you see a group of Calgarians splashing around in the pool in February, you get curious.
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11-10-2004, 05:53 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
A corpse with all but a French accent came within a hair of defeating a wartime president.
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This says alot about the Dems and none of it is good.
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11-10-2004, 05:53 PM
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Moderator
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Troubles With English
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Originally posted by lookingformarket
I wholeheartedly agree that it is nonsensical to prohibit a pharmacy owner from terminating a pharmacist because Jesus doesn't want him filling BCP.
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What does this mean?
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11-10-2004, 05:53 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You probably noticed the price spikes when there was recent political unrest in Venezuela. I think Chavez is an idiot, but we haven't been making any friends down there, either. Nigeria is an emerging African nation, but there are frequent clashes between Christians and Muslims (the most popular name for boys in 2002 was "Osama," I think).
Mexico and Canada? NAFTA?
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If that's true, why start the war in Iraq just to build a pipeline across Afghanistan?
and how about this?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138203,00.html
I guess Mr. Cheney was prophetic.
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11-10-2004, 05:58 PM
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#3147
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Moderator
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Speaking of foreign dependence, these were the largest suppliers of foreign oil in 2002:
Saudi Arabia: 16.9%
Mexico: 15.1%
Canada: 15.0%
Venezuela: 14.4%
Iraq: 11.4%
Nigeria: 5.9.%
Algeria/Kuwait/Qatar: 2.7%
It truly amazes me how little is ever discussed about Venezuela and Nigeria. Canada and Mexico are never mentioned.
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Well if Canada and Mexico would get off their lazy asses and bomb us, maybe they'd get more press...
And that's "Nigeria, Inc.", a wholly owned subsidiary of Royal Dutch Petroleum, Ltd.
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11-10-2004, 06:03 PM
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Registered User
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
Nevermind.
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Last edited by ltl/fb; 11-10-2004 at 06:05 PM..
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11-10-2004, 06:07 PM
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#3149
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Please give one good reason for drilling in the ANWR. The admin's reason for pursuing this is purely symbolic.
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So is the opposition. It's only a small portion that would be potentially impacted. |
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11-10-2004, 06:09 PM
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Serenity Now
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In the spirit of being a uniter, not a divider, and bipartisanship
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Kerry lost by a field goal, 38-35. A corpse with all but a French accent came within a hair of defeating a wartime president.
But if you apply the soft bigotry of low expectations, and you will, Bush hit a grand slam.
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Good try, but this doesn't explain the big gains in the Senate and the modest gains in the house. |
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