All Hank, all the time.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So table the racism thing -- so nice of you to bring it up, though -- and tell me, does Chertoff's incompetence bother you, or you feel good knowing that he's running DHS?

As long as Nagin or the Landrieus are not involved I feel okay.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
I wouldn't go there. I heard that they were all of Pakistani descent. Maybe not technically natives of the ME, but at least children of natives of the ME.

I believe it is a safe bet that they were all raised in households that used languages from a middle eastern nation.

How you fight the war on terrorism might depend at least a little on whether you think future attacks will come from residents of Middle Eastern countries or residents of, e.g., Great Britain.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How you fight the war on terrorism might depend at least a little on whether you think future attacks will come from residents of Middle Eastern countries or residents of, e.g., Great Britain.

Why? Are you really asserting that the profile of the enemy combatant has materially changed based on what passpourt they carry?

[SlaveNoMore]

Adder
Um... how about more or less legits than the settlers in the occupied territories?

If it was any country other than Israel, they wouldn't be referred to as "occupied" territories.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It took me about three seconds on Kos to find someone writing about the terror plot:

• 1) Terrorists genuinely exist and are trying to kill innocent people, regardless of anything done by George W Bush.
  
  2) Not all reporting done on terrorist attacks is produced in order to cover up something else.
  
  3) Not all reporting about terrorism designed to keep people scared.
  
  4) The thwarting of a major attack is genuinely newsworthy.
  
  Complain all you want about the shitty coverage, about the twisting of the story by interested parties, about the new flying restrictions, whatever. But don't deny the facts on the ground. It makes you look like a Republican.

As he says, don't deny the facts -- it makes you sound like a Republican.

I have never heard of Kos but when I went their for the first time the headline was, "Britain pays the price for their support of Bush" (not the United States). Cleary this is an untrustworthy partisan Blog. Why would you try and defend it?

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
How you fight the war on terrorism might depend at least a little on whether you think future attacks will come from residents of Middle Eastern countries or residents of, e.g., Great Britain.

Actually, the common denominator is Islam, so you've got a pretty damn good place to start.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If it was any country other than Israel, they wouldn't be referred to as "occupied" territories.

That is simply wrong. They are referred to occupied territories because that is what they are. Israel has never annexed them, and itself governs them as occupied land that is not a part of Israel.

Unless you are suggesting that any country other than Israel would have annexed them by now, which is a tougher call. Perhaps.

[SlaveNoMore]

Spanky
I have never heard of Kos...

Are you for real?

Kos is now the heart and soul of the Democratic party - and has been since Dean was made party Chairman.

Where the hell have you been hiding?

[andViolins]

Originally posted by Adder
That is simply wrong. They are referred to occupied territories because that is what they are. Israel has never annexed them, and itself governs them as occupied land that is not a part of Israel.

Unless you are suggesting that any country other than Israel would have annexed them by now, which is a tougher call. Perhaps.

Why isn't Guam referred to as an occupied territory? Western Sahara? Northen Cyprus?

aV

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Why? Are you really asserting that the profile of the enemy combatant has materially changed based on what passpourt they carry?

Profiling is law enforcement work. Hank was just pointing out that this is war. We need to decide which countries to invade. If they're coming from Great Britain, our supply lines will be much shorter and we already speak that language. (Well, most of us.) And we've got unfinished business -- they burned the White House in 1812.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Profiling is law enforcement work. Hank was just pointing out that this is war. We need to decide which countries to invade. If they're coming from Great Britain, our supply lines will be much shorter and we already speak that language. (Well, most of us.) And we've got unfinished business -- they burned the White House in 1812.

Follow. the. money.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Follow. the. money.

Oh, wait, didn't the MSM compromise our ability to do that? What fifth columnists?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
I have never heard of Kos...

I find this incredible. Moving along....

but when I went their for the first time the headline was, "Britain pays the price for their support of Bush" (not the United States). Cleary this is an untrustworthy partisan Blog. Why would you try and defend it?

I was more interested in pointing out that Sebby was wrong than I was in defending Kos. Like its right-wing counterparts, you can count on finding wingnuts saying stupid, inflammatory things in the comments there. Slave and Penske and others here like to drag some of them out from time to time to make the rest of us look bad. We don't do the same to them with Little Green Footballs and the like because we have too much class, because we find it distasteful to spend time on those sites, because we don't want the page hits to give them advertising revenue, and because Penske flings enough absurd monkey shit around here as it is.

Kos specifically is a website that hosts a massive amount of content. Some of it is worthwhile. Some of it isn't. I have a good friend who is an elected public official who is a part of that community and thinks highly of it. Personally, I rarely go there.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by andViolins
Why isn't Guam referred to as an occupied territory?

Because we signed a peace treaty at the end of the Spanish-American War that made Guam a U.S. territory.

Western Sahara?

Many people believe that Western Sahara is an occupied territory. But there is a more fundamental disagreement there about who has sovereignty over Western Sahara.

Northen Cyprus?

According to Penske's favorite reference work, Wikipedia, "the European Union continues to consider northern Cyprus as EU territory with a disputed foreign military presence." Sounds like occupied territory to me.

[Adder]

Originally posted by andViolins
Why isn't Guam referred to as an occupied territory? Western Sahara? Northen Cyprus?

aV

When is the last time anyone referred to Gaum or Western Sahara? As for Cypress, who is occupying whom?

But fine, what would you prefer them to be called?