Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Here's a local TV example --

Local news sucks. I don't watch it.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Wasn't Clark the Clinton's boy?

He entered the field late, but yeah -- he was their boy when he did. Anything that happened those first few months should be remembered from the prism of someone trying to knock Dean off the pedestal.

The case can be made that he was "too far left" or would be too vocal in criticizing other mainstream Democrats. On the other hand, the "too far left" has already been attached to Kerry now. Further, I never heard Dean or any other seasoned professional politician say anything close to Clark's "I'm in favor of abortion on demand for anyone who wants one" (paraphrasing) remark.

So any reason they could give for knocking Dean out looks like BS from this seat.

All of that said, I don't really see the Clintons as too active in the Kerry campaign either. You'd think that Bubba would do okay if he really wanted someone to be president.

[SlaveNoMore]

From Drudge:

MSNBC Chris Matthews Attacked Live On Air at Convention... Developing

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Cool. Demonize an opponent by showing that he shares that one attribute that you are fighting to make acceptable. On all sorts of psychological levels, this is strategic idiocy.

Um, how does disclosing that he is gay "demonize" him? I think that's a very poor choice of words, and a veiled effort to rationalize for those who asked him to step down. If it's enough that his constituents and your party think he's a demon based on that information, well, then nobody should come out of the closet.

I don't like involuntary outing, but what motivates it is not an effort to "demonize" the outee, as you say. Rather, it's a desire to humanize the characteristic of being gay. It often works, but at too high a personal cost for my blood. I'm not a high stakes gambler.

[Atticus Grinch]

SEE the leader of the free world say "it's an honor to talk to" a renowned drug addict!

HEAR him refer to his wife as "the First Lady Bush"!

WATCH him say "Libya is no longer got weapons of mass destruction"!

HEAR Rush call the RNC "tastefully done"!

SEE Bush implicitly call Saudi Arabia and Egypt and for that matter the rest of the Middle East "just as guilty as a terrorist"!

Transcript.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
SEE the leader of the free world say "it's an honor to talk to" a renowned drug addict!

HEAR him refer to his wife as "the First Lady Bush"!

WATCH him say "Libya is no longer got weapons of mass destruction"!

HEAR Rush call the RNC "tastefully done"!

SEE Bush implicitly call Saudi Arabia and Egypt and for that matter the rest of the Middle East "just as guilty as a terrorist"!

Transcript.

Umm....I don't see it anywhere - I'm assuming there's a loyalty oath I have to sign before I can read it?

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
WATCH him say "Libya is no longer got weapons of mass destruction"!

You prefer a guy who says JENG-JIS KHAN??

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You prefer a guy who says JENG-JIS KHAN??

I understand that is how it was pronounced in the original Mongolian.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm not convinced on this yet. There is still 60 or so days to go, Kerry has at least 40% of the vote wrapped up, and no president has gotten 50% of the vote since at least 1988. This is still going to be close, and a lot can happen in the time remaining, especially in the debates. I know W is always misunderestimated, but I cannot breathe a sigh of relieve until the 3rd debate is over.

The election will be a referendum on W. W has moved up a tick or two in the polls in the last few weeks by laying low and letting surrogates attack Kerry. But the focus will come back to Bush, and his record. People don't like his budget deficits, and they don't like his war, and so the question is whether they can swallow all that for firm leadership in the war on terrorism.

[Shape Shifter]

I seem to be getting mixed messages here.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The election will be a referendum on W. W has moved up a tick or two in the polls in the last few weeks by laying low and letting surrogates attack Kerry. But the focus will come back to Bush, and his record. People don't like his budget deficits, and they don't like his war, and so the question is whether they can swallow all that for firm leadership in the war on terrorism.

From today's Barnhart report on the Chicago Tribune:

>>Stocks staged an afternoon rally today, enabling the Dow Jones industrial average and the broader Standard & Poor's 500 index to close August with a slim gain.

That was good news for President Bush. In the post-World War II era, no incumbent president has been re-elected when the stock market fell in August.

The Dow fell 4 percent in August 1992, before Bill Clinton defeated incumbent George H.W. Bush. At midday today, it seemed George W. Bush was in line to suffer an August slump of his own.

But the Dow closed up 51.40 points, at 10.173.92. For the month, the Dow inched up 34 points, or 0.3 percent.<<

While it doesn't say he's gonna win, it doesn't say he's gonna lose either.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
W has moved up a tick or two in the polls in the last few weeks by laying low and letting surrogates attack Kerry

¿excúseme?

¿qué candidato ha estado poniendo bajo?

[SlaveNoMore]

Powerline gets a raving Al on film

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
People don't like his war,

Where do you get this crap? you don't even have a majority on this board, and this is one of your power bases. a board full of malingerers and the sexually ambivilent who fuck off all day and aren't productive- if you can't pull a majority here give up.

[sgtclub]

If you didn't catch him tonight, you really missed out. He's a fucking rockstar. I thought his call out to immigrants, like himself, was particularly effective and genius.

I suspect that the once bi-partisan efforts to change the constitution to allow a foreign born person to be POTUS, was indefinitely quashed tonight.

My fellow Americans, this is an amazing moment for me. To think that a once scrawny boy from Austria could grow up to become Governor of California and stand in Madison Square Garden to speak on behalf of the President of the United States that is an immigrant's dream. It is the American dream.


I was born in Europe ...and I've traveled all over the world. I can tell you that there is no place, no country, more compassionate more generous more accepting and more welcoming than the United States of America.


As long as I live, I will never forget that day 21 years ago when I raised my hand and took the oath of citizenship.


Do you know how proud I was? I was so proud that I walked around with an American flag around my shoulders all day long.


Tonight, I want to talk about why I'm even more proud to be an American — why I'm proud to be a Republican and why I believe this country is in good hands.


When I was a boy, the Soviets occupied part of Austria. I saw their tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes. I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector. Growing up, we were told, "Don't look the soldiers in the eye. Look straight ahead." It was a common belief that Soviet soldiers could take a man out of his own car and ship him off to the Soviet Union as slave labor.


My family didn't have a car — but one day we were in my uncle's car. It was near dark as we came to a Soviet checkpoint. I was a little boy, I wasn't an action hero back then, and I remember how scared I was that the soldiers would pull my father or my uncle out of the car and I'd never see him again. My family and so many others lived in fear of the Soviet boot. Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union and it is because of the United States of America!


As a kid I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left. I love Austria and I love the Austrian people — but I always knew America was the place for me. In school, when the teacher would talk about America, I would daydream about coming here. I would sit for hours watching American movies transfixed by my heroes like John Wayne. Everything about America seemed so big to me so open, so possible.


I finally arrived here in 1968. I had empty pockets, but I was full of dreams. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon and Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend who spoke German and English, translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which is what I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air.


I said to my friend, "What party is he?" My friend said, "He's a Republican." I said, "Then I am a Republican!" And I've been a Republican ever since! And trust me, in my wife's family, that's no small achievement! I'm proud to belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln, the party of Teddy Roosevelt, the party of Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) and the party of George W. Bush.


To my fellow immigrants listening tonight, I want you to know how welcome you are in this party. We Republicans admire your ambition. We encourage your dreams. We believe in your future. One thing I learned about America is that if you work hard and play by the rules, this country is truly open to you. You can achieve anything.