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Hank Chinaski · 10-08-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
See the word "some"? The same phenomenon has been going on with Orthodox Jews and fundamentalist Christians for decades. Eventually they concede all science to the godless moderates, and then all is well once again.

I'm sorry. a Jewish kid in Medical school intentionally fucked it up? Cite please.

sebastian_dangerfield · 10-08-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2603966.ece

Just wow.

Can I profile which doctor i go to in the ER?

Muslim medical students get picky

Some Muslim medical students are refusing to attend lectures or answer exam questions on alcohol-related or sexually transmitted diseases because they claim it offends their religious beliefs.

Some trainee doctors say learning to treat the diseases conflicts with their faith, which states that Muslims should not drink alcohol and rejects sexual promiscuity.

A small number of Muslim medical students have even refused to treat patients of the opposite sex. One male student was prepared to fail his final exams rather than carry out a basic examination of a female patient.

This is a story? Fail them or don't hire them. Next.

Hank Chinaski · 10-08-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This is a story? Fail them or don't hire them. Next.

STP. your plan may be in trouble.

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-09-2007, 01:56 PM

Uh-oh.

Spanky · 10-09-2007, 02:55 PM

Pressure on Turkish PM to order Iraq invasion

09 October 2007 09:22

Turkey's Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, came under intense pressure on Monday night to order an invasion of northern Iraq following the deadliest attacks for over a decade on the Turkish military and civilians by separatist Kurdish guerrillas.

Erdogan, who has resisted demands from the Turkish armed forces for the past six months for a green light to cross the border into Iraqi Kurdistan, where the guerrillas are based, called an emergency meeting of national security chiefs to ponder their options in the crisis, a session that some said was tantamount to a war council.

A Turkish incursion is fiercely opposed by Washington since it would immensely complicate the United States campaign in Iraq and destabilise the only part of Iraq that functions, the Kurdish-controlled north.

Two Turkish soldiers were killed on Monday in booby trap explosions laid by guerrillas of the Kurdistan Workers' party (PKK) -- fighters classified as terrorists by Ankara, Washington and the European Union. Those casualties followed the killing of 13 Turkish soldiers in the south-east on Sunday when PKK forces outgunned a Turkish unit of 18 men without sustaining any casualties, according to the Kurds.

Last week, in an ambush also ascribed to the PKK, gunmen sprayed a bus with automatic fire in the same region, killing 13 civilians, including a boy of seven.

The Turkish media described the toll from the attacks as the worst in 12 years in a conflict spanning several decades that has taken almost 40 000 lives.

Erdogan is known to think little of the invasion option, making the pragmatic calculation that it would probably fail. Western diplomats in Ankara agree that an invasion could be counter-productive. The Turkish military raided Iraqi Kurdistan dozens of times in the 1990s but were unable to suppress the insurgency.

After a Cabinet meeting dominated by the Kurdish conflict, Cemil Cicek, the Turkish government spokesperson, said on Monday: "What is at issue here is how much any action we decide to take would bring us closer to a result." He did not rule out an invasion but queried its "usefulness".

The prime minister, however, is being challenged by the army command, which earlier this year demanded his authority to invade. He is also vulnerable to a mounting public clamour to act because of the upsurge in guerrilla activity and the heavy casualties being suffered. Hardline Turkish nationalists entered Parliament in Ankara following elections in July and they are also baying for Kurdish blood.

Following the soldiers' deaths on Sunday, Erdogan signalled a shift in policy without specifying how. "Our campaign against terrorism will continue in a different manner," he said. The Turkish military has just declared 27 "security zones" on the Iraqi and Iranian borders off-limits to civilians, suggesting to some that it might be gearing up for an invasion.

But despite the rising violence, Erdogan has opted for politics in his attempts to defuse the conflict with the Kurds. His Justice and Development party (AKP) enjoyed a stunning success among the Kurdish minority, concentrated in the south-east, in the July elections and he has also focused on political pacts with Baghdad to get the better of the guerrillas.

Last week Iraqi and Turkish interior ministers signed an accord aimed at combating the PKK by trying to cut the rebels' funding and logistics, and agreeing to extradite captured "terrorists". The accord, however, took three days to thrash out; Turkish insistence on a "hot pursuit" formula, allowing cross-border raids, was denied, and scepticism is high as to whether Baghdad can deliver.

Officially, Ankara refuses to recognise or deal with the government of Iraqi Kurdistan, although there have been back-channel attempts over the past year to engage with Massoud Barzani, the president of the Iraqi Kurdish region.

Erdogan's options are also constrained by strong US hostility to an invasion. While Turkish public opinion has been strongly anti-American since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, much of the logistical support for the US troops goes to Iraq via Turkey. Relations are also under severe strain because of US congressional moves to brand the 1915 massacres of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey as "genocide".

Erdogan sent aides to Washington on Monday to lobby Congress on the "genocide" resolution. Ankara is also warning that it could block the logistical support to the US in Iraq if the resolution is passed.

The Kurdish separatist guerrillas of the Kurdistan Workers' party, or PKK, have been at war with the Turkish state since the early 1980s. Although it is now said to favour home rule within Turkey over secession, the PKK has historically pursued the breakaway of Kurdish-dominated south-east Turkey as a prelude to unifying Kurdish lands in Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria. Turkey pursued a scorched earth policy in the 1980s and 1990s, destroying thousands of villages, sending millions of Kurds west and leaving about 37 000 dead. Turkey's biggest coup came in 1999 with the capture of the PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who was jailed for life. - Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2007

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-09-2007, 03:03 PM

The conservative blogosphere goes after the family of a 12-year-old boy who had the audacity to speak out for SCHIP.

Not Bob · 10-09-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The conservative blogosphere goes after the family of a 12-year-old boy who had the audacity to speak out for SCHIP.

Eh. I was all annoyed when I read the brief version of the story in the Swampland blog. Then I read the underlying article.

My problem is more with the fact that they apparently got their facts wrong when they started slamming the kid's family. I've got no problem with the fact that they tried to see if the kid's "equal time" speech in response to the veto -- which was a political speech, after all, drafted by the congressional Democratic political staff -- was based upon something fishy.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 10-09-2007, 04:05 PM

So, half the British troops are about to leave and the Iraqi government is sidelining our Blackwater merceneries .... so, what's this I hear about a surge?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-09-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So, half the British troops are about to leave and the Iraqi government is sidelining our Blackwater merceneries .... so, what's this I hear about a surge?

Isn't your energy better spent coming up with a solution for 2009?