Still Hating America.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
That's a bankruptcy reform issue, no?

Well, yes, but it was in direct response to a semi-rant. You know how they tend to meander.

eta: I also see it as a healthcare issue.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Sweetie, it's Sebby. We aren't supposed to take him seriously. He sees Edward's comments, and he thinks of his cousin with the interest only floating rate loan used to buy the beach house, not of the copy center clerk paying 345% to Jackson Hewitt for a refund anticipation loan so that he can get his car fixed to keep his job.

Sebby, for a disctinction between the problems of rich loan defaulters, upper middle class loan defaulters, and working class loan defaulters, re-read Tom Wolfe's A Man In Full.

Aptly noted by someone whose politics appear to derive heavily from some fo the main characters in The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test.

I prefer the way Bonfire addressed class warfare.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
This is so inane and ridiculous and self-pitying and a million other synonyms that it almost made me vomit.

2. That was a little over the top.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Either you believe in teh market or you believe in paternalism. Apparently a lot of America would be better off if they did not have access to credit and other lent money.

All hail the holy Market!

[Replaced_Texan]

Dear god, they dressed the hostages exactly like Iran's leader.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Aptly noted by someone whose politics appear to derive heavily from some fo the main characters in The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test.

I prefer the way Bonfire addressed class warfare.

Caveat emptor! Freedom of contract!

You so should have lived in the Gilded Age. Too bad that, if you lived back then, the best that your Paddy self could have hoped for was to be a saloon-keeper.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Caveat emptor! Freedom of contract!

You so should have lived in the Gilded Age. Too bad that, if you lived back then, the best that your Paddy self could have hoped for was to be a saloon-keeper.

Saloon-keeper? That would be cool.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Saloon-keeper? That would be cool.

Indeed.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So right-wing bloggers are all hot and bothered about this photo, saying that Pelosi is "donning the garb of America's enemies."

Who cares if she sticks a scarf on her head. Bringing American anti-semites to introduce to foreign, terrorist-supporting anti-semites is the real transgression.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
All hail the holy Market!

The most libertarianist of them all, indeed.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Who cares if she sticks a scarf on her head. Bringing American anti-semites to introduce to foreign, terrorist-supporting anti-semites is the real transgression.

I have no earthly idea what you're talking about.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
This makes no sense. Just thought you should know.

It makes plenty of sense. This fucking moron is the ostensible leader of your party - you know, the one that is pushing for an Equal Rights Amendment over here.

She then immediately goes over to Syria and encourages the thuggish, misogynist belief of muslims that women are inferior by putting that scarf on her ugly head and that stupid black dress on.
And not merely in a mosque (as some of you have tried to compare this to either (i) a display of "respect" or (ii) going to a catholic church - even though in 35 years I've never been in a catholic church that required a woman to cover her head), but on the public streets of Damascus.

Apparently, I'm not the only one who sees it this way:

.Reform Party of Syria's statement

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was seen roaming the streets of Damascus flaunting a Hijab. The Hijab worn by women across the Muslim world has come to symbolize either one of three things: 1) a symbol that men control women by forcing piety, or 2) a return to religiosity because of oppressive rulers, or 3) a fashion statement. If you ask any expert on the Middle East, you would get any one of three answers. The ones who usually claim it is a fashion statement are the political rulers who usually oppress people in general. A Hijab is NOT a confirmation of the rights of women in the Middle East but rather a symbol of their suppression.

As a Muslim, I fully understand respect of our religion by visiting US officials and I applaud that respect. Had Speaker Pelosi worn the Hijab inside a Mosque, this would have indicated respect but for Pelosi to wear it on the streets of Damascus all the while she is sitting with the self-imposed Baschar al-Assad who has come to symbolize oppression and one of the reasons why women are forced to wear the Hijab as they turn to religion to express their freedom is a statement of submittal not only to oppression but also to lack of women's rights in the Middle East. Pelosi just reversed the work of the Syrian civil society and those who aspire for women's freedom in the Muslim countries many years back with her visual statement. Her lack of experience of the Middle East is showing.

Assad could not have been happier because Syrian women, seeing a US official confirming what their husbands, the Imams in the Mosques tell them, and the society at large imposes on them through peer pressure will see in her wearing a Hijab as a confirmation of the societal pressures they are constantly under. No one will ever know how many women took the Hijab on after seeing Pelosi wearing it. The damage Speaker Pelosi is causing with her visit to Syria will be felt for many years to come.

PS - How absolutely great is it that she felt the need to visit the mosque that features the final resting place of the dismembered head of John the Baptist.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have no earthly idea what you're talking about.

She hasn't been the same since her lothottamy.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Caveat emptor! Freedom of contract!

You so should have lived in the Gilded Age. Too bad that, if you lived back then, the best that your Paddy self could have hoped for was to be a saloon-keeper.

There's a good reason they didn't have us in the good clubs, and the more I meet of my kind, the more I'm driven to think those stodgy old bastards had a point about us.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
She hasn't been the same since her lothottamy.

fringey ignores me.
once 2 close socks having fun
pea in pod now split