All Hank, all the time.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Intriguing.

What does that mean?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
And by treaty, if I recall correctly. The Warsaw Convention or something. Just try suing an airline sometime.

Yes, but it appears about 120 airlines, and all of the majors, waived the personal injury liability cap per the cite I gave. If my quick read of it is providing me with a correct understanding. OTOH, i am sure that getting a judgment/settlement is not easy.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
What does that mean?

I am intrigued by the possibilities of your anarcho-libertarian approach to airline security, and wonder if that's what the Israelis do. Since we seem to agree that Israelis do this stuff well, I figured you'd know about it if the crackerjack Israeli security personnel were all hired because the airlines were looking to save a buck (in tort claims down the road).

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I am intrigued by the possibilities of your anarcho-libertarian approach to airline security, and wonder if that's what the Israelis do. Since we seem to agree that Israelis do this stuff well, I figured you'd know about it if the crackerjack Israeli security personnel were all hired because the airlines were looking to save a buck (in tort claims down the road).

Going backwards, above, I said, generally I prefer to not look to the government to address what should be left to the market where there is adequate civil remedy. Not inconsistent with that, I also think in this case, the government, despite my general preference, should be involved in providing and ensuring airport/airline security. Notwithstanding that, it doesn't alleviate the airlines, as private entities, of all responsibility/liability, and when they drop the ball, they should pay, which apparently, statute allows for. Given that this potential monetary liability exists, it would seem as much in the airlines interest as not, to make sure there was adequate security, even if the government was doing all it should.

So, in essence, I am pointing the finger of blame here upon both the private carriers and our elected officials.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I read your posts -- whatever definition you cite, your application of is questionable.

So -- Renamo -- terrorists or not? Unita?

As I stated before in a prior post:

"There is a difference between "working with" and bestowing the title of "peacemaker". I will give you Jonas Savimbi but the Contras were not "terrorists".

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I am intrigued by the possibilities of your anarcho-libertarian approach to airline security, and wonder if that's what the Israelis do. Since we seem to agree that Israelis do this stuff well, I figured you'd know about it if the crackerjack Israeli security personnel were all hired because the airlines were looking to save a buck (in tort claims down the road).

I spent the last 5 days at an athletic competition for Jewish kids 13-16. There were cops everywhere- Sharon wasn't there- it was kidsn 13-16. To get into venues you had to have your car searched for explosives.

At night the kids would go to waterparks or game centers- and there were cops guarding the entrances to search cars- ALL BECAUSE 13-16 year old kids wanted to have a week competing with other and without the stray representative of the Religion of peace killing bunches of them.

Israelis have better security because they KNOW there are people, lots of them, that want to kill the Jews. Americans just don't yet realize we're in the same boat. Once we do realize it will be profiling like mad and checking our lip balm w/o bitching about it.

[SlaveNoMore]

"The Connecticut primary reveals that the center of gravity in the Democratic Party has moved, from the lunch-bucket working class that was the dominant constituency up through the 1960s to the secular transnational professional class that was the dominant constituency in the 2004 presidential cycle. You can see the results on the map. Joe Lieberman carried by and large the same cities and towns that John F. Kennedy carried in the 1960 presidential general election.

Ned Lamont carried most of the cities and towns that were carried by Richard Nixon. In Stamford, where Joe Lieberman grew up the son of a liquor-store owner, and where there are still sizeable blue-collar and black communities, Mr. Lieberman won with 55% of the vote. In next-door Greenwich, where Ned Lamont (like former President George H.W. Bush) grew up as the scion of an investment banker family, and where the housing values are now among the highest in the nation, Mr. Lamont won with 68% of the vote. If Mr. Lamont wins in November, he will be just one of several members of a Democratic caucus who have made, inherited or married big money.

The working class Democrats of the mid-20th century voted their interests, and knew that one of their interests was protecting the nation in which they were proud to live. The professional class Democrats of today vote their ideology and, living a life in which they are insulated from adversity, feel free to imagine that America cannot be threatened by implacable enemies. They can vote to validate their lifestyle cho8ices and their transnational attitudes.

In the mid-20th century the core constituencies of both the Democratic and the Republican Parties stood foursquare for America's prosecution of World War II and the Cold War. Today, as the Connecticut results suggest, it's different. The core constituency of the Republican Party stands foursquare for America's prosecution of the global struggle against Islamofascist terrorism -- and solidly on the side of Israel in its struggle against the same forces. The core constituency of the Democratic Party wants to stand aside from the global struggle -- and, as the presence of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton at Mr. Lamont's side on election night suggests, is not necessarily on the side of Israel. It's not your father's Democratic Party."

[Penske_Account]

I have seen him nekkid. More than once. NTTAWWT.

TGIF,

Penske

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"The Connecticut primary reveals that the center of gravity in the Democratic Party has moved, from the lunch-bucket working class that was the dominant constituency up through the 1960s to the secular transnational professional class that was the dominant constituency in the 2004 presidential cycle.

(a) CT is one of the wealthiest, most professional states in the country (hi Penske!).

(b) If you look at the exit polls, the differences between Lamont and Lieberman on this score are not that striking. eta: link

(c) Barone surely had acess to the exit polls -- if I saw discussion of them, I sure he did too -- but neglected to mention them because they didn't fit well with the piece he decided to write.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
(a) CT is one of the wealthiest, most professional states in the country (hi Penske!).

Are you trying to rub my nose in the fact that I was asked to leave?

Low Ty, really low.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Are you trying to rub my nose in the fact that I was asked to leave?

Low Ty, really low.

I thought you were begged to stay, but left for the better (boxed) wine out West, notwithstanding the allure of the Connecticut Wine Trail.



eta: Looks like two wine trails to me, but I can't say I know my Nutmeg State wine.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

For sebby: More re the GOP giving Dean a Hitler mustache.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski


Israelis have better security because they KNOW there are people, lots of them, that want to kill the Jews. Americans just don't yet realize we're in the same boat.

Perhaps that is because we are not. We are not surrounded.

To suggest the danger is the same both insults the Israelis by underestimating the threats to them, and coddles the poor, quivering Americans who, like you vastly overestimate the threats to us.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"The Connecticut primary reveals that the center of gravity in the Democratic Party has moved, from the lunch-bucket working class that was the dominant constituency up through the 1960s to the secular transnational professional class that was the dominant constituency in the 2004 presidential cycle. You can see the results on the map. Joe Lieberman carried by and large the same cities and towns that John F. Kennedy carried in the 1960 presidential general election.

Ned Lamont carried most of the cities and towns that were carried by Richard Nixon. In Stamford, where Joe Lieberman grew up the son of a liquor-store owner, and where there are still sizeable blue-collar and black communities, Mr. Lieberman won with 55% of the vote. In next-door Greenwich, where Ned Lamont (like former President George H.W. Bush) grew up as the scion of an investment banker family, and where the housing values are now among the highest in the nation, Mr. Lamont won with 68% of the vote. If Mr. Lamont wins in November, he will be just one of several members of a Democratic caucus who have made, inherited or married big money.

The working class Democrats of the mid-20th century voted their interests, and knew that one of their interests was protecting the nation in which they were proud to live. The professional class Democrats of today vote their ideology and, living a life in which they are insulated from adversity, feel free to imagine that America cannot be threatened by implacable enemies. They can vote to validate their lifestyle cho8ices and their transnational attitudes.

In the mid-20th century the core constituencies of both the Democratic and the Republican Parties stood foursquare for America's prosecution of World War II and the Cold War. Today, as the Connecticut results suggest, it's different. The core constituency of the Republican Party stands foursquare for America's prosecution of the global struggle against Islamofascist terrorism -- and solidly on the side of Israel in its struggle against the same forces. The core constituency of the Democratic Party wants to stand aside from the global struggle -- and, as the presence of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton at Mr. Lamont's side on election night suggests, is not necessarily on the side of Israel. It's not your father's Democratic Party."

Barone is now lamenting that the Democratic party has moved past its labor union base? Interesting. Who knew he was such a populist?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For sebby: More re the GOP giving Dean a Hitler mustache.

This is such a nonevent and a nonstory. Only people that spend too much on the internet (and have absolutely no lives) would care at all about this.