New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

[Connect_the_Dots]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
But it does not follow that someone who has plastic surgery necessarily has these problems.

In Argentina, the government pays for plastic surgery because job applicants are required to submit their pictures with their resumes. It is a very image-concious society. It is also a society with a disportionate amount of thin women with perfect TITS!

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I suppose my sense of "normal" is somewhat colored by the women in my family, the shortest of whom is about 5'8".

This is a funny example of how information in posts can surprise you. Because of your avatar I have always pictured you to be about 2 feet tall.

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
query: do you think anyone is actually reading your (is it 3rd or 4th) wordy long post on this subject?

I admit it is possible that TM is reading if he is in the mood to fight this topic today, but even that seems unlikely.

Carry on.

I read it. Don't presume to speak for me. But thanks for playing.

Originally posted by leagleaze
Didn't realize I called him morally reprehensible.

You called him an asshole for generalizing. By saying asshole I figured you didnt care for his post to the point of having to call him a name. I threw in "morally" so as to make a statement about political correctness in greater society today. Added a link on the logic chain. You caught me. So I guess drawing conclusions from observations is just reprehensible to you.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
i don't know, but if some of her cartoons were written by a man they would be undoubtably considered sexist.

like this one which unambiguously tells girls to value themselves based on the men they are with.

http://www.katyjohnson.com/toon3.html

Oddly the guy in the cartoon seems to resemble Tucker Max.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Sort of topical - does anyone watch it? I never know when it's on, but if I catch it I cannot stop watching it. Some of the transformations are incredible.

I've seen it once. I was sickened and horrified within two minutes. Thirty minutes later, I didn't feel any better.

The show is truly a car-wreck phenom, once you see it you have to keep looking.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by mmm3587
You'd really think that I'm a presumptive asshole just because I think that some people do things for reasons I think indicate problems with our society? ...So, bitch please.

Nope. I have no problem with the fact you have a problem with breast implants. Nor that you feel that they indicate problems with our society. In fact, I generally have a problem with breast implants and agree, they often, but not always, indicate problems with our society.

I do however have a problem with how you chose to characterize the majority of women who get them. Strippers and prostitutes? I don't know about you, but if I had a mom who had breast cancer and she got breast implants to make herself feel better after she had to have a breast removed, I'd be pretty damned offended at that characterization. And of course you didn't mean women like that should be compared to strippers and prostitutes. TM was absolutely right, the problem isn't your opinion, it is the extremes in which you speak/spoke when expressing it.

And right back at ya.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Oddly the guy in the cartoon seems to resemble Tucker Max.

My god you're right.

And I will never teach my son or hypothetical daughter that "you are who you date." Give me a fucking break.


Sidd(if it were true, I'd be a lot nicer, and better looking)Finch

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Sort of topical - does anyone watch it? I never know when it's on, but if I catch it I cannot stop watching it. Some of the transformations are incredible.

I don't watch it in the sense that I have any idea when it's on, but if I run across it I tend to watch. It's, uh, weird when someone does the extreme makeover just before a major life event (e.g., the chick who did it before she got married and her husband-to-be didn't see the new her until the wedding).

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
On the other end of the spectrum, we have Bjork (I will not post the photo, but curious onlookers may click this link - http://cache.eonline.com/Gossip/Fash...ina.102003.jpg)

Either Bjork now looks an awful lot like Angelina, or you posted the wrong link.

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I think you watch too many MTV documentaries. Not everyone who gets a breast job is obsessed with their bodies. Not everyone who gets a breast job goes straight up to 40DDD. Many women change the shape of their breasts or get a small increase to give them more curves. Feeling better about yourself often comes from a change in your physical appearance. For you to argue otherwise means you either have a perfect build or are some delusional fattie who is perfectly comfortable with those three sausages sitting on the back of your neck.


a few people catching it.

TM

Define "obsessed with their bodies", At what point does a desire to have large tits become a body obsession? Is it when you buy wonderbras? Is it when you work out every day of the weeK? Is it when you are willing to spend big money (that you may or may not have), take health risks, and assume the responsibility of multiple surgeries down the road for a set of Bs or EEEs? Or is it something further than that? At what point does a healthy sense of ego turn into disportionate time, money, risk taking and/or narcissism?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
It is also a society with a disportionate amount of thin women with perfect TITS!

Disproportionate to what? Don't be a playa-odiadero.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
of course, because allowing public nudity would send the wrong message to their daughter

In the immortal words of TM, Whiff.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I suppose my sense of "normal" is somewhat colored by the women in my family, the shortest of whom is about 5'8". Especially in my parent's generation, there are a lot of size 10-14s that are not at all overweight, while my size 4 (ish, I've never asked) cousin is rail thin (nicknamed Mantis by her high school friends, because of her thin arms and legs and reputation for emotionally slaughtering former boyfriends).

The women in the Mr.'s family are all amazons - 5'10", 6'. His sister (5'10") played semi-professional rugby, and still looks like she could rip a bull in half. But his mum, 5'11", weighed 120 when she got married. The men are even worse - one of his grandfathers was the family runt at 6'7" - all of his brothers and his father were 7'. This was pre WWI.

My family is little. When the Mr. visits them, he always comments on being in Munchkin land among the wee folk. My sister is about an inch shorter than me and weighs about 15 pounds more, but is a size 16 (all over). She's got small bones - she looks overweight the instant she gets over 105. I've got bigger bones and look decent right up to about 135.

Anyhow, tall people can carry around shitloads of extra weight without anyone particularly noticing - though it doesn't mean they aren't overweight. Tall people should not, generally, have the same proportions as short people - i.e.: just because a person has a couple extra inches in height doesn't mean they should have a proportionally bigger waist or butt.

However, I think the BMI calculations are really stacked against tall people. My short, size 16, slug-a-bed sister is middling-overweight, not even obese. My tall, fit, athletic Mr. with his 10 inch drop waist has almost exactly the same BMI.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I do however have a problem with how you chose to characterize the majority of women who get them. Strippers and prostitutes?

Relax. I think he made it pretty clear that he was just talking from personal experience.