Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I thought you guys were saying we should like Bush because he tells the rest of the world to lead, follow, or shut up.

I don't recall him ever asking them to lead.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
You haven't pointed out yet how anti-Semitic the Spanish are. If we're going to do that today, could we get it over quickly?

Could we tie this in?

http://www.polygamy.com/Jewish/Polyg...sh-History.htm

At a later period Maimonides in his Mishneh Torah maintains, contrary to his personal opinion, that
polygamous unions from a strictly legal point of view are permissible. Eventually, however, they were
proscribed under the authority of Rabbi Gershom (about l000), although cases of polygamy were found in
Spain as late as the 14th cent. That such cases were not rare may be inferred from the fact that in the
Spanish communities the Kethubah, the document marking the betrothal, exacted that the man was not to
take a second wife. The Islamic influence on the Jews in Spain was more or less pronounced until the
expulsion at the end of the 15th cent.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Surely Rove won't go that far.

Here's what they think in Pittsburgh:

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I don't recall him ever asking them to lead.

Ty's making reference to the Nat. guard duty, I think.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Whitehouse suspects Kerry making up support of foreign leaders

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...229EST0556.DTL

Lovely article in the Economist a couple weeks ago speculating that Blair wants a Kerry win. Maybe it's just that Kerry can read.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sgtclub
There will be a terrorist attack on our soil about 3-5 days prior to the November election.

Thus ensuring Bush's reelection and continued occupation by the infidels?

[ETA] Oops, StP.

In other words: A vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorist attacks.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
"They keep telling us they're behind us every step of the way. Kerry must be making it up." Right, that's the ticket.

I thought you guys were saying we should like Bush because he tells the rest of the world to lead, follow, or shut up. Now you don't believe that some of them don't like it?

I really like where Cheney quotes a heckler.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
If such a thing were to happen, don't you think it would help re-elect Bush? And might you not conclude that that was what Al Qaeda wanted?

I think in the US, American voters (unlike the pussy Spaniards) would rally around the flag. However, as you (or some other poster who in my mind I morph together with you) has suggested, AQ is not always rational in its thinking.

I think AQ will take what happened in Spain as a win and try to repeat this tactic in the UK and the US.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
"They keep telling us they're behind us every step of the way. Kerry must be making it up." Right, that's the ticket.

I thought you guys were saying we should like Bush because he tells the rest of the world to lead, follow, or shut up. Now you don't believe that some of them don't like it?

I am hopeful that under a Replaced Texan administration this type of treason will be dealt with properly. I also intend to ask her to revisit the whole Super Bowl pool fiasco.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
It was my understanding that the earliest indications showed strong similarities between the train bombing and ETA's normal work. Plus, ETA was the natural candidate for this in Spain. So, the initial call of "probably ETA" was not out of line, and was very quickly corrected to "but maybe not - there's more here".

I think the opposition merely did the "Bush lied!!" form of hysteria better than was done over here. Give it a week, and I bet we see a lot of buyer's remorse.

Concur. I've also heard that there were reasonable indicators that ETA was involved, and assessments that if the governing party really wanted to whitewash matters prior to election day, they wouldn't have been as quick to update that misimpression with corrections that AQ might've been involved. So kudos to them.

Other assessments that I've heard about the Spanish populace's reasoning in voting socialist was that -- regardless of whether they did so to "punish" the existing govt for supporting the war -- we don't yet know until polling is done, and to some extent it doesn't really matter.

What matters is that the terrorist numbnuts successfully disrupted national elections in a western state, and that they likely think that's cool, and will try to do elsewhere if they can. It'll probably be easiest to do in Europe, which is the soft underbelly of the West. (So one might want to postpone that house rental in Tuscany that's coming up next month.)

Lacking a Jeff Greenfield or Roger Ailes, I doubt that Terror Numbnuts Inc. spends much time calculating the precise political effect of their actions because these things could go either way -- or if they do so, that they're probably bad at predicting the result. (For example, after all, OBL apparently thought that 9/11 would send us into Afghanistan, where we'd get bogged down and pull out, which was an enormous miscalculation.) The populace could be scared off by the attack, or could be galvanized to resist in a way that they weren't before.

Instead, it's likely that Terror Numbnuts Inc. will simply think that such actions will stir up trouble and instability, which in a general sense would further their goals.

ETA, I'm just catching up and haven't been able to tell which side of today's Maginot line this puts me on. Sorry, fellas.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
I think in the US, American voters (unlike the pussy Spaniards) would rally around the flag. However, as you (or some other poster who in my mind I morph together with you) has suggested, AQ is not always rational in its thinking.

I think AQ will take what happened in Spain as a win and try to repeat this tactic in the UK and the US.

No doubt. Unclear to me why you all are so eager to agree with them that it was a victory, except that it furthers the GOP's interests to have the country rally behind it in war.

We have always been at war with Oceania.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Could we tie this in?

http://www.polygamy.com/Jewish/Polyg...sh-History.htm

Exactly.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Unclear to me why you all are so eager to agree with them that it was a victory

Because it was a victory. A victory handed to them by the Spanish people. Me saying it isn't a victory wouldn't change the fact that it was.

I call 'em like I see 'em without regard to partisanship.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Ty
Unclear to me why you all are so eager to agree with them that it was a victory

Originally posted by Not Me
Because it was a victory. A victory handed to them by the Spanish people. Me saying it isn't a victory wouldn't change the fact that it was.

Now that's clarity.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Now that's clarity.

It was a victory, even accepting Ty's question of whether AQ wants the socialists in, because AQ caused a reversal in the election.
Terrorism is about scaring government into doing what the terrorists want. The Socialists know they are in power because of the bombing, they know they should try and not do things that make AQ mad.
Ty, are you just being argumentative? this is obvious.