Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 237

Hank Chinaski · 09-05-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Personally, I'd take medical treatment from a J.D. before I would entrust my health to a third world commie bozo doctor.

I've been rude. I forgot to ask, did Florida Coastal make it through Katrina intact? You fly down for alumni weekend in November, correct?

sgtclub · 09-05-2005, 12:15 AM

Political move or not, I admire Frist for this:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/03/D8CD4TIG0.html

baltassoc · 09-05-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
Ya think maybe he has a thing or two to take care of first before he sends the thank-you notes?

I don' t recall precisely for previous disasters, but I believe this is a pretty typical staging of things: disaster, shock of world, offer of help by other nations, take care of immediate needs, acceptance of help.

This seems like so much nitpicking.

THANK YOU NOTES? Who said any thing about thank you notes?

WFT are you talking about? How about "Yes, please, could you send the generators/pumps/tents/medical supplies now?"

I realize he's a busy guy, but surely somebody down at the State Department could have stayed over the weekend and coordinated this.

The resources being offered, in particular the generators and the pumps, are what are necessary to provide for basic, immediate needs.

Hank Chinaski · 09-05-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
THANK YOU NOTES? Who said any thing about thank you notes?

WFT are you talking about? How about "Yes, please, could you send the generators/pumps/tents/medical supplies now?"

I realize he's a busy guy, but surely somebody down at the State Department could have stayed over the weekend and coordinated this.

The resources being offered, in particular the generators and the pumps, are what are necessary to provide for basic, immediate needs.

You, having posted this again, rather than realizing you would come off better waiting for some other topic, caught now my interest. I'm often caustic in such situations, so perhaps you'll want to disengage.

generators/pumps/tents/medical supplies are all in stock at my local hardware, I just checked. We don't need em, but could use the $$$ to the Red Cross. we really don't need to be taking time out to be photo oping someone wanting to give up crap that would probably generate the wrong frequency electricity.

baltassoc · 09-05-2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Would you please post the story that shows where there is a need for food/water/$$ here now? Isn't the problem getting supplies to people?

Are you saying the US has a water shortage?

Warning- I edited this post way short to be nice.

I think we are in agreement that one significant shortage is in transportation, which makes it somewhat problematic that the Feds can't be bothered to respond to offers for amphibious vehicles, helicopters, heavy transport planes and naval ships. Not to mention generators and pumps.

Hank Chinaski · 09-05-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
I think we are in agreement that one significant shortage is in transportation, which makes it somewhat problematic that the Feds can't be bothered to respond to offers for amphibious vehicles, helicopters, heavy transport planes and naval ships. Not to mention generators and pumps.

no we're not. Even Penske will agree that there are enough buses/boats/helicopters whatever. Penske's point was those sunken buses should have been moved- FULL OF PEOPLE- to high ground. But I've seen no evidence that more vehicles are really needed.

baltassoc · 09-05-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
generators/pumps/tents/medical supplies are all in stock at my local hardware, I just checked. .

Are you fucking kidding me?

Were not talking about running-you--computer-and your microwave out in the backwoods generators here. Ditto pumps. And tents.

baltassoc · 09-05-2005, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
no we're not. Even Penske will agree that there are enough buses/boats/helicopters whatever. Penske's point was those sunken buses should have been moved- FULL OF PEOPLE- to high ground. But I've seen no evidence that more vehicles are really needed.

You need to open your eyes then.

Wait, didn't you say there were transportation issues?

Hank Chinaski · 09-05-2005, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
You need to open your eyes then.

Wait, didn't you say there were transportation issues?

There are/were issues about getting vehicles in, not about having enough vehicles.

You're really really pretty aren't you?

baltassoc · 09-05-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
There are/were issues about getting vehicles in, not about having enough vehicles.

You're really really pretty aren't you?

Yes, I am.

Shape Shifter · 09-05-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ignorance of law is no escuse.

A President cannot send troops into an American city. It would be illegal. He can provide acess to Nat'l Guard to be UNDER THE CONTROL OF A GOVERNOR. Your bald statements of blame w/o some idea of what could have been done, are not really worthy of comment.

There are also reports that Bush asked La. to hand control over, but the request was denied. Because your side tries to blame everything on Bush, the responses that point to others as being the ones at fault are inevitable.

In the end, Slave was the only one who has made sense in any of the 100 blame posts. Although I'm right that the Senator is getting a little chunky.

2. People need some fucking perspective. Many times more than the Katrina victims have been killed and/or displaced in Iraq, and those were totally preventable. W's incompetence bothers me less than his venality.

Shape Shifter · 09-05-2005, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Apparently Mississippi is very happy with the level of support and cooperation it received from the feds. It sounds to me like this was a local problem (either local state/city officials or those federal officials responsible for NO).

Those place are above sea level. When the storm subsided, so did the water. To compare the two situations is ludicrous.

Shape Shifter · 09-05-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Political move or not, I admire Frist for this:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/03/D8CD4TIG0.html

What a selfless act. There can't be that many cats left in NO.

Hank Chinaski · 09-05-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What a selfless act. There can't be that many cats left in NO.

Yes. That's why you should earmark any money you give to pet rescue agencies to save dogs only.

sgtclub · 09-05-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Those place are above sea level. When the storm subsided, so did the water. To compare the two situations is ludicrous.

No shit, that's the point. N.O. presents an extremely difficult situation and one which I doubt could have been properly prepared for. The only solution is evacuation, and many people actually chose not to evacuate. Did you not hear that several hours pre-landing, that there were tons of people that refused to leave the city and instead thought it a good idea to party it up in the quarter? Once the levees broke, the game was over. Compare that with Mississippi, which is much more similar to the situations we have dealth with many times before and which did survived the storm much better.