Missing the Paigow (et al.) [sniff]

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
No, the best thing would be to have your IQ lopped off at about 89 or so. I used to ride a bus with all the robots going to different daily nightmares and we were all grim and quiet- but the back of the bus was a group of retarded adults going to their "job" cleaning earphone/headsets for United Airlines, or whatever else work the state could jimmy up for them- thing is they were always happy and chatty and smiling.

Ever notice the only happy guy on PB is spank?

I have noticed that. I also notice that you're one of the guys who agrees with him most of the time on PB.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
In a way, you are correct, although the facile psychobabble you ascribe as causation for who I am is off the mark. But I understand you are struggling to understand something that you, ultimately, will never be able to understand. It is true that I do not enjoy things in the manner that I think you do. For example, I am a decent cook and have developed a sophisticated palate and have learned a lot about food, but not out of any passion for the subject. Instead, I have learned that this knowledge and expertise will serve me well when conversing with colleagues, cooking for houseguests, courting potential mates. As for the third of these three, the ultimate objective is, of course, to engage in sexual relations. I find this enjoyable, I suppose, but again not out of any passion for the act. Instead, I understand that engaging in sexual acts will help achieve a physical and chemical release that increases efficiency in other aspects of my life and helps keep me mentally and physicaly healthy. Don't get me wrong -- I do not perform the act robotically. I have learned to be tender, giving, reciprocating, and act the part of the lover, the lustful youth, whatever the occasions requires. The problem most men experience is that they become impatient pre-act, and bored thereafter. But I do not experience boredom or the related emotion impatience -- I am just as happy to engage in the small talk, showering of affections, cuddling, whatever as I am to mountain bike, watch TV, etc. They are just additional aspects of the lovemaking process for me, no more or less important than the actual orgasm. And although I have to say that I would never choose your life among the happy back-of-the-bus retards, I do admit to curiosity, for it strikes me that these happy retards are, in fact, genuinely happy, or at least as happy as their diminished capacity allows. And sometimes I wonder what that is like.

I farted.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by spookyfish
I have noticed that. I also notice that you're one of the guys who agrees with him most of the time on PB.

yes. And I also hung out at the back of bus and tried to get happy with that crowd, but still somewhere in the back of my mind I knew I was different- better - and i knew that my "better" really meant "unhappy ."

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
All men want to act childish and immature throughout their entire lives. Most of us have no desire to act like adults. That's why we like Howard Stern so much. We'd all act like him if we could. I don't even think he's particularly funny, but I wouldn't mind a life full of fart jokes, tits and spanking...I blame society.

You think anyone actually *wants* to act mature? I think the only reason anyone grows up is because it's forced on them.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
You think anyone actually *wants* to act mature? I think the only reason anyone grows up is because it's forced on them.

I'm not quite sure it took with me.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I'm not quite sure it took with me.

Well, you own a house with (I assume) a mortgage. So you have responsibilities that just kind of come along with reaching a certain age, whether you like it or not. That's what I was getting at.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Well, you own a house with (I assume) a mortgage. So you have responsibilities that just kind of come along with reaching a certain age, whether you like it or not. That's what I was getting at.

Not to mention a fist-shaped dildo. Certainly, that entails some level of responsibility.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
You think anyone actually *wants* to act mature? I think the only reason anyone grows up is because it's forced on them.

That was kind of my point. We need to start pushing back on that force.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Well, you own a house with (I assume) a mortgage. So you have responsibilities that just kind of come along with reaching a certain age, whether you like it or not. That's what I was getting at.

Hm. Renting, and after a 12-month lease it seems to be month-to-month. Maybe pets count.f

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Not to mention a fist-shaped dildo. Certainly, that entails some level of responsibility.

You know you're truly a grown-up when you finally locate the remote control to your vibrator that the cat swiped and hit in the sofa cushions.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Well, you own a house with (I assume) a mortgage. So you have responsibilities that just kind of come along with reaching a certain age, whether you like it or not. That's what I was getting at.

Yeah, but I have a lot more freedom now to do the immature or whimsical shit that I really want to do. Maybe that will change with kids or when things get super-serious enough with balt that we're living together, but for the most part, I've had a LOT more fun in the last half-dozen years than I did in the half-dozen that preceeded them.

ETA: Maybe I just did my 20s wrong, and I should have just taken off and hiked the Appalachain trail or joined the Peace Corps or done some of the stuff that requires a lot of time but not that much money.

I guess that's a good poll question: What is something that you wish you had the time to do? I'd probably still answer with the Appalachain trial, though I'd also really like one day to really explore Latin America. A friend of mine from high school took a jeep and drove from Mexico to Chile after college, and the trip sounded amazing. I don't think I could do it alone, though, and there are probably parts of it that are just unsafe in general, no matter how well you speak Spanish or what your sex is. But it sounded cool.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I guess that's a good poll question: What is something that you wish you had the time to do? I'd probably still answer with the Appalachain trial...

That's a tough question. But I'm pretty sure I can rule your example out without hesitation.

TM

[dtb]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I guess that's a good poll question: What is something that you wish you had the time to do? I'd probably still answer with the Appalachain trial...

I do this every weekend! (well, the bit of the trail that runs in front of my house)

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I guess that's a good poll question: What is something that you wish you had the time to do?

I still want to do the six-month Buddhist temple continuous silent meditation thing.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I guess that's a good poll question: What is something that you wish you had the time to do?

Do I have money too?