Meet your new thread, same as the old thread.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Having discernable goals and understanding what can be achieved by military force and what requires political involvement goes a long way.

I am not yet sure I like her, but it doesn't matter. She would be vastly more competant than the current administration, and that matters.

You underestimate her. I'm confident she can live up to Bush II's standards, and then some (or less, depending on how you like to phrase it).

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

god bless these untied states!

This is great.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
They know a Dem president is the best bet for the jihadis, don't you remember Osama coming out and saying if Kerry wins thing will be better for us?

JFC. You never seemed stupid before. Hypo: You're Joachim von Ribbentrop. It's May 7, 1940. Hitler asks you whom he should endorse in the Norway Debate. What do you tell him? My respect for you is riding on your answer.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This is great.

thanks. would you give atticus a quote for classes in how to read my posts?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This is great.

thanks. would you give atticus a quote for classes in how to read my posts?

[SlaveNoMore]

LessinSF
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071106/..._fundraising_7

I know where you are going with this, but you're way wrong.

If anything, it's just further [sad] evidence of the accumulation of wealth by a bunch of moronic gamers with stock options.

[Hank Chinaski]

• A Tale of Two Houses
  
  House #1 A 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool ( and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated by gas. In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average American household does in a &! nbsp;ye ar. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2 400. In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern "snow belt" area. It's in the South.
  
  House #2
  Designed by an architecture professor at a
  Leading national university. This house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house is
  4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms! ) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal
  Heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F. ) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. ; The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then
  Into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape. ! & nbsp;
  
  ~~~~~
  HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville, Tennessee; it is the abode of the "environmentalist" Al Gore.
  
  HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford,
  Texas; it is the residence the of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.
  
  An "inconvenient truth".

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

• A Tale of Two Houses
  
  House #1 A 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool ( and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated by gas. In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average American household does in a &! nbsp;ye ar. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2 400. In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern "snow belt" area. It's in the South.
  
  House #2
  Designed by an architecture professor at a
  Leading national university. This house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house is
  4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms! ) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal
  Heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F. ) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. ; The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then
  Into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape. ! & nbsp;
  
  ~~~~~
  HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville, Tennessee; it is the abode of the "environmentalist" Al Gore.
  
  HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford,
  Texas; it is the residence the of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.
  
  An "inconvenient truth".

The Crawford property sounds pretty cool.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

• A Tale of Two Houses
  
  House #1 A 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool ( and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated by gas. In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average American household does in a &! nbsp;ye ar. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2 400. In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern "snow belt" area. It's in the South.
  
  House #2
  Designed by an architecture professor at a
  Leading national university. This house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house is
  4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms! ) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal
  Heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F. ) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. ; The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then
  Into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape. ! & nbsp;
  
  ~~~~~
  HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville, Tennessee; it is the abode of the "environmentalist" Al Gore.
  
  HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford,
  Texas; it is the residence the of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.
  
  An "inconvenient truth".

Sounds like terrific design there on the Crawford ranch. Good for Bush.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

For those of you who say that water-boarding isn't torture:

• As a former Master Instructor and Chief of Training at the US Navy Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape School (SERE) in San Diego, California I know the waterboard personally and intimately. SERE staff were required undergo the waterboard at its fullest. I was no exception. I have personally led, witnessed and supervised waterboarding of hundreds of people. It has been reported that both the Army and Navy SERE school’s interrogation manuals were used to form the interrogation techniques used by the US army and the CIA for its terror suspects. What was not mentioned in most articles was that SERE was designed to show how an evil totalitarian, enemy would use torture at the slightest whim. If this is the case, then waterboarding is unquestionably being used as torture technique.
  
  The carnival-like he-said, she-said of the legality of Enhanced Interrogation Techniques has become a form of doublespeak worthy of Catch-22. Having been subjected to them all, I know these techniques, if in fact they are actually being used, are not dangerous when applied in training for short periods. However, when performed with even moderate intensity over an extended time on an unsuspecting prisoner – it is torture, without doubt. Couple that with waterboarding and the entire medley not only “shock the conscience” as the statute forbids -it would terrify you. Most people can not stand to watch a high intensity kinetic interrogation. One has to overcome basic human decency to endure watching or causing the effects. The brutality would force you into a personal moral dilemma between humanity and hatred. It would leave you to question the meaning of what it is to be an American.

via Volokh Conspirator Jonathan Adler

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

More sick and frustrated republicans.

What's with you guys?

[SlaveNoMore]

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
More sick and frustrated republicans.

What's with you guys?

Yes, I'm quite sure the fact that he was Republican in a useless local legislature (where probably everyone is a Republican, for that matter) had something to do with the fact the guy is a disgusting scumbag who should be waterboarded (Hi - Ty!!!)

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Yes, I'm quite sure the fact that he was Republican in a useless local legislature (where probably everyone is a Republican, for that matter) had something to do with the fact the guy is a disgusting scumbag who should be waterboarded (Hi - Ty!!!)

And yet anonymous dope-smoking hiptards posting on Kos and the DU somehow are the personification of the true platform of the Democratic Party. Got it.

(note -- I actually agree with your post; just pointing out that your goose could use a little gander sauce. Uh, you know what I mean.)

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Not Bob
And yet anonymous dope-smoking hiptards posting on Kos and the DU somehow are the personification of the true platform of the Democratic Party. Got it.

(note -- I actually agree with your post; just pointing out that your goose could use a little gander sauce. Uh, you know what I mean.)

Did you just advocate fowl bukkake?

[Hank Chinaski]

The Internet is making us stupid
Legal sage Cass Sunstein says democracy is the first casualty of political discourse in the digital age.


http://letters.salon.com/news/featur...view/?show=all read this, and try to follow it's simple suggestions