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04-04-2007, 04:13 PM
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making allowances
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't want to tie chores and allowance too closely because the family is not a market economy. Kids should do the chores because they have to do chores, not because they'll be paid.
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Just because they get paid for doing something doesn't make it a "market" economy. The Russians got paid to do lots of things (like build cars that didn't work). And I'm not sure they had much choice in the matter anyway.
That said, if you want to hold firm againt the alienation of labor, I guess you have a point.
(daddy, where do you go every day in the morning?)
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04-04-2007, 04:36 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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making allowances
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Originally posted by ironweed
My kid is randomly showered with cash by her grandmother and others (grandma is the worst offender). It is hard to get her to prioritize when she can pull a $100 bill out of her piggy bank, which she did once, much to my surprise. I took it for research purposes.
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I keep waiting for my wife's relatives to do this, since they did it for her, but apparently they don't love her kids as much.
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04-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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#3693
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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making allowances
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Just because they get paid for doing something doesn't make it a "market" economy. The Russians got paid to do lots of things (like build cars that didn't work). And I'm not sure they had much choice in the matter anyway.
That said, if you want to hold firm againt the alienation of labor, I guess you have a point.
(daddy, where do you go every day in the morning?)
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I don't mean to shield my children from the reality that they'll have to work for a living someday, but I don't want them to think that they're doing their chores because they'll get paid. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, etc.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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04-05-2007, 02:08 PM
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Livin' a Lie!
Join Date: May 2003
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making allowances
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
At what ages do you give kids how much for an allowance? And how does it work?
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My son makes $50 a month sewing "Polo" labels onto my shirts with free canings if he asks to go to the bathroom.
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04-16-2007, 01:35 PM
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making allowances
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Originally posted by pony_trekker
My son makes $50 a month sewing "Polo" labels onto my shirts with free canings if he asks to go to the bathroom.
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Ty can help them learn capitalism here
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04-16-2007, 01:44 PM
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Steaming Hot
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Giving a three hour blowjob
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making allowances
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't mean to shield my children from the reality that they'll have to work for a living someday, but I don't want them to think that they're doing their chores because they'll get paid. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, etc.
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It is like you are my parents, or at least went to the same Marx School for Raising Children.
You might want to rethink your strategy -- look how I turned out.
I am very bored and would like to go home and play with my kitten.
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04-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rose City 'til I Die
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making allowances
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I am very bored and would like to go home and play with my kitten.
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You can't just close the office door?
Sigh. I miss Pepper.
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04-16-2007, 03:39 PM
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Livin' a Lie!
Join Date: May 2003
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making allowances
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Ty can help them learn capitalism here
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Right. If my kid learned that I don't make $200 a week we'd be forbidden from ordering from the dollar menu and sitting in the cheap seats he has been accustomed to.
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04-16-2007, 04:11 PM
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Lowered expectations.
My daughter (almost 7) told me last week that I was funny. For a lawyer.
Oh sharper than a serpent's tooth!!!
P.S. - This was not meant to be its own thread.
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04-16-2007, 04:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 764
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making allowances
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't mean to shield my children from the reality that they'll have to work for a living someday, but I don't want them to think that they're doing their chores because they'll get paid. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, etc.
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Nobody else seems to want to answer the questions, so . . .
My kids have the opportunity to earn a buck per week per grade they are in (e.g. when in 2nd grade they could earn 2 bucks). As they get into higher grades, this will likely end up with a multiple. I don't pay them per chore, but pay them if they have contributed to the family and done a reasonable amount of chores (there are also non-monetary consequences involved with not doing chores).
I fully believe in the alienation of labor and will pay them directly for doing extra work beyond their chores (e.g. picking up the branches from the ground after I've trimmed the shrubbery into the shape of large dollar signs and swans and whatnot).
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04-16-2007, 04:45 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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making allowances
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Originally posted by J. Fred Muggs
Nobody else seems to want to answer the questions, so . . .
My kids have the opportunity to earn a buck per week per grade they are in (e.g. when in 2nd grade they could earn 2 bucks). As they get into higher grades, this will likely end up with a multiple. I don't pay them per chore, but pay them if they have contributed to the family and done a reasonable amount of chores (there are also non-monetary consequences involved with not doing chores).
I fully believe in the alienation of labor and will pay them directly for doing extra work beyond their chores (e.g. picking up the branches from the ground after I've trimmed the shrubbery into the shape of large dollar signs and swans and whatnot).
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I see you decided to take my advice and not mention the "fashion industry camp" in Cambodia you send them to every summer. Wise move.
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04-16-2007, 05:18 PM
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Registered User
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making allowances
nah
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04-16-2007, 06:08 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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making allowances
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Originally posted by J. Fred Muggs
Nobody else seems to want to answer the questions, so . . .
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I answered the question; my answer simply didn't please Ty.
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04-16-2007, 06:15 PM
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Lowered expectations.
Quote:
Originally posted by ironweed
My daughter (almost 7) told me last week that I was funny. For a lawyer.
Oh sharper than a serpent's tooth!!!
P.S. - This was not meant to be its own thread.
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A one post personal thread... You godamn egomaniac.
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04-16-2007, 06:23 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Lowered expectations.
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
A one post personal thread... You godamn egomaniac.
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on a day when we've been sadly reminded how much damage one disgruntled lunatic can do, you're going to fuck with Ironweed? I bet this VT shit bought him another year at the firm.
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