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Old 11-01-2007, 11:38 AM   #3721
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I think it takes some doing to figure out if you do not have a program.
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220-age=max heart rate.

50-85% of max heart rate is target.

And, yes, if you're more athletic these figures change and it matters. But if you know that, you're not asking about how to calculate target heart rate on a lawyers chat board.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:43 AM   #3722
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A program that involves pencil and paper?

220-age=max heart rate.

50-85% of max heart rate is target.

And, yes, if you're more athletic these figures change and it matters. But if you know that, you're not asking about how to calculate target heart rate on a lawyers chat board.
They matter even more if you're less athletic. If you are significantly overweight, suffer from diabetes, high blood presssure, heart disease, liver disease, or have any other health risk factors, you should see a doctor to determine the appropriate rate.

For instance, I can't work out at a level where my exertion is such that I can't hold a conversation.
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A program that involves pencil and paper?

220-age=max heart rate.

50-85% of max heart rate is target.

And, yes, if you're more athletic these figures change and it matters. But if you know that, you're not asking about how to calculate target heart rate on a lawyers chat board.

And yes, the goal is to spend most of your work out in this target range.

Again, this is why I love my heart rate monitor. It knows my targe and it beeps when I get too high or fall too low. At the end of my workout, it tells me how long I spent in my target zone and how many calories I burned.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:53 AM   #3724
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Step count is the important thing to focus on. Distance doesn't really mean shit and caaloriews burned is based on an average person with an average metabolism and an average muscle/fat distribution. By definition, such a person isn't you.
Okay, so less distance and more step count...

I'm just starting to try this at lunch have been doing so for a few months. For 3 months, I cut out most pasta and rice. Increased veggies with fiber.

So I'm not going to be as fast....I have to work towards fast.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:56 AM   #3725
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Again, this is why I love my heart rate monitor. It knows my targe and it beeps when I get too high or fall too low. At the end of my workout, it tells me how long I spent in my target zone and how many calories I burned.
I have a love/hate relationship with mine. I started wearing it for workouts a few years ago, on a doctor's recommendation. I became obsessed with following it and listening for the beeps. Back then, I had to, as I was not allowed to exceed a certain heart rate. Then I became addicted. Now I workout without sometimes, and feel naked, but also feel like I'm physically able to breathe easier, because the strap is too confining.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:03 PM   #3726
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I'm really curious about these BodyBugg things that the contestants on The Biggest Loser are wearing.

http://www.bodybugg.com/index.php

I love love love my heart rate monitor when I work out. I wonder if wearing something like this would be a further incentive.
I am also in love with my heartrate monitor. It's almost gotten to the point where I won't work out without it. That thing looks cool. hmmmmm
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I am also in love with my heartrate monitor. It's almost gotten to the point where I won't work out without it. That thing looks cool. hmmmmm
It is expensive and the darkish-gray text on lightish-gray background website is annoying.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:40 PM   #3730
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Step counters and heart monitors oh my!
Any activity is great, especially if you are ramping up from no activity. But if weight loss is the goal, and it has been determined that walking is the exercise, it is VITAL that calorie consumption be curbed. In an hour of casual walking one cannot hope to burn more than 400 calories. To lose one pound one must burn 3,500 more calories than one consumes.

A person would lose weight eating nothing but HoHos if he or she ate 3 HoHos and only 3 HoHos per day because he or she would be consuming about 900 calories and burning more than that (the amount depends of activity and size of the person). This is not a good way to lose weight, but just by way of example.

Eating "healthier" foods is a good first step, but you still need to be concerned with overall calories intake. Some people become vegetarians to lose weight, thinking that if they eat healthy food they will lose weight. But if they eat 3,000 calories per day (evven if it is granola, or tofu, or nuts, etc), and only burn 1,800, they will gain weight instead. They would be better served eating 1,800 calories that include meat and dessert (if the goal is weight loss).

Calories in, calories out should be the focus for weight loss. Figure out (you can do a google search for basal metabolic rate) how many calories you burn at rest to determine how many calories you can consume, factoring in your activity level, to lose the weight at the speed you desire.
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Any activity is great, especially if you are ramping up from no activity. But if weight loss is the goal, and it has been determined that walking is the exercise, it is VITAL that calorie consumption be curbed. In an hour of casual walking one cannot hope to burn more than 400 calories. To lose one pound one must burn 3,500 more calories than one consumes.

A person would lose weight eating nothing but HoHos if he or she ate 3 HoHos and only 3 HoHos per day because he or she would be consuming about 900 calories and burning more than that (the amount depends of activity and size of the person). This is not a good way to lose weight, but just by way of example.

Calories in, calories out should be the focus for weight loss. Figure out (you can do a google search for basal metabolic rate) how many calories you burn at rest to determine how many calories you can consume, factoring in your activity level, to lose the weight at the speed you desire.
Excellent advice. Or go to www.weightwatchers.com and sign up for the online program.
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A program that involves pencil and paper?

220-age=max heart rate.

50-85% of max heart rate is target.

And, yes, if you're more athletic these figures change and it matters. But if you know that, you're not asking about how to calculate target heart rate on a lawyers chat board.
I did interval training yesterday. I was given a range of heart rate zones from 55-90 percent based on rough estimates of my age, resting heart rate, and max heart rate. Using your calculation, I came nowhere near what my target rates were yesterday. Just way off. I wish I had used your calculation, because the interval training nearly made me puke with the numbers I was given. Using your numbers, I could have had a beer.
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Any activity is great, especially if you are ramping up from no activity. But if weight loss is the goal, and it has been determined that walking is the exercise, it is VITAL that calorie consumption be curbed. In an hour of casual walking one cannot hope to burn more than 400 calories. To lose one pound one must burn 3,500 more calories than one consumes.

A person would lose weight eating nothing but HoHos if he or she ate 3 HoHos and only 3 HoHos per day because he or she would be consuming about 900 calories and burning more than that (the amount depends of activity and size of the person). This is not a good way to lose weight, but just by way of example.

Eating "healthier" foods is a good first step, but you still need to be concerned with overall calories intake. Some people become vegetarians to lose weight, thinking that if they eat healthy food they will lose weight. But if they eat 3,000 calories per day (evven if it is granola, or tofu, or nuts, etc), and only burn 1,800, they will gain weight instead. They would be better served eating 1,800 calories that include meat and dessert (if the goal is weight loss).

Calories in, calories out should be the focus for weight loss. Figure out (you can do a google search for basal metabolic rate) how many calories you burn at rest to determine how many calories you can consume, factoring in your activity level, to lose the weight at the speed you desire.
Interesting and helpful.

The healthy foods/good carbs lots of protein is a start that took some serious willpower to step away from the pasta.

Now I am focusing on portion size and calorie calculation. The walking was to start the ball rolling to burning some calories and to start my metabolism from its sluggish point to a more workable point.

The glycemic index seems to be a factor...the whole cortisol and insulin and inflammation theories are very interesting.

Basically I am buying a gadget this weekend and then trying today to see how many blocks I cover if I focus. And cutting portions and calories.

But you know how south Beach has Phase I where it cuts all bad carbs? I tried that and it really reduced my carb blood sugar spikes and drops. I think I was becoming insulin resistant....feel much better now.

Now I have to focus on weaning myself off coffee--coffee apparantly triggers cortisol and stress hormones and elevates heart rate. gotta give up that coffee.
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Calories in, calories out should be the focus for weight loss. Figure out (you can do a google search for basal metabolic rate) how many calories you burn at rest to determine how many calories you can consume, factoring in your activity level, to lose the weight at the speed you desire.
Just as a caution, calorie calculators are averages both on the consumption side and on the burning side. Even accounting for body weight and heart rate, they tend not to be specific to any one individiual.

Some people are much more efficient at absorbing food than others, which means that their bodies will take 120 calories out of one of those 100 calorie snack packs. Other people's bodies will only absorb 80 calories out of the same snack pack.

On the other end, especially at rest, people's metabolisms are different and the same exertion will end up burning a different number of calories depending on the person. Also, metabolism tends to change over time, depending on frequency of activity, body weight, body fat percentage, hormones, and all sorts of other crap.
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Any activity is great, especially if you are ramping up from no activity. But if weight loss is the goal, and it has been determined that walking is the exercise, it is VITAL that calorie consumption be curbed. In an hour of casual walking one cannot hope to burn more than 400 calories. To lose one pound one must burn 3,500 more calories than one consumes.

A person would lose weight eating nothing but HoHos if he or she ate 3 HoHos and only 3 HoHos per day because he or she would be consuming about 900 calories and burning more than that (the amount depends of activity and size of the person). This is not a good way to lose weight, but just by way of example.

Eating "healthier" foods is a good first step, but you still need to be concerned with overall calories intake. Some people become vegetarians to lose weight, thinking that if they eat healthy food they will lose weight. But if they eat 3,000 calories per day (evven if it is granola, or tofu, or nuts, etc), and only burn 1,800, they will gain weight instead. They would be better served eating 1,800 calories that include meat and dessert (if the goal is weight loss).

Calories in, calories out should be the focus for weight loss. Figure out (you can do a google search for basal metabolic rate) how many calories you burn at rest to determine how many calories you can consume, factoring in your activity level, to lose the weight at the speed you desire.
One of the things I found was that by subbing out pasta and subbing in say, broccoli and lean chicken or salmon is that I need to still try to cut extras like, for example, yogurt. That is 200 or so extra calories...the Vitamin Water I did away with a 100 right there.

Fatty syrups in my coffee, another source of calories and sugar.

Yes, almonds in a snack but small portion...

The drinking your calories thing is huge. I'm sick right now so I've been drinking smoothies but usually they are a huge empty calorie source. You'd be better off with an apple.
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