Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Everyone sucks but us. Our allies suck. Our enemies suck. The French and Spanish suck, whether they are our allies or our enemies or something else. Our enemies' enemies (except us) all suck. They suck, suck, suck, suck, suck.

We held these turkeys overseas and denied them either constitutional or Geneva Convention protection, and if anyone says that sucks, I say, fuck 'em. This is war, dammit, to hell with the rule of law. To hell with Democracy. To hell with the British.

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[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
As a good counterpoint, I give you the new Nader E-mail:

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[Rubbish]

Nader sucks.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Nader sucks.

Nader represents the hope for American democracy.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are you rejecting without testing the alternative hypothesis that british intelligence and police suck?

I won't reject that hypothesis (and I would imagine that the U.S. also forwarded those folks' dossiers to supplement the questioning). However, your side should be reluctant to advance that hypothesis, given the reliance you have placed on British intelligence in the past.

S_A_M

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Making you left of Ty.

There's a lot of room to my left, but nobody here seems to want to fill it.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Everyone sucks but us. Our allies suck. Our enemies suck. The French and Spanish suck, whether they are our allies or our enemies or something else. Our enemies' enemies (except us) all suck. They suck, suck, suck, suck, suck.

We held these turkeys overseas and denied them either constitutional or Geneva Convention protection, and if anyone says that sucks, I say, fuck 'em. This is war, dammit, to hell with the rule of law. To hell with Democracy. To hell with the British.

That's it, give in to the dark side.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
There's a lot of room to my left, but nobody here seems to want to fill it.

That's because the hippy chicks residing their kind of smell.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Everyone sucks but us. Our allies suck. Our enemies suck. The French and Spanish suck, whether they are our allies or our enemies or something else. Our enemies' enemies (except us) all suck. They suck, suck, suck, suck, suck.

We held these turkeys overseas and denied them either constitutional or Geneva Convention protection, and if anyone says that sucks, I say, fuck 'em. This is war, dammit, to hell with the rule of law. To hell with Democracy. To hell with the British.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are you rejecting without testing the alternative hypothesis that british intelligence and police suck?

Now don't get all Bilmore on me. I advanced no hypothesis, so I have rejected no alternative. The Brits could indeed be sucking; "perfunctory questioning" doesn't seem like a phrase I want my antiterrorism service using, like, ever. Between two years and 8 hours, though, somebody sure isn't assessing these guys accurately. All I did say is that it looks like they may get some cash out of the deal.

I'd love to see a follow up report in three months with these guys living the high life with a tricked out Escalade, drinking malt liquor out of a chalice, stripper pole in the basement, that sort of thing. It would make a good Mastercard commercial, if I weren't sick of everyone in the world using that "....priceless" line.

Anyway, from Gattigap's post I can see I'm not exactly up to the minute here, so I'll end this post now and go start writing my "Kerry to win the Dem nomination" bulletin.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by bilmore
Nader represents the hope for American democracy.

And you mean it, because (as a WaPo-reported CBS poll showed two weeks back) every single vote of that 6-7% comes from those who would otherwise support Kerry.

IIRC, Here's what I read then:

3-Way race: Kerry 47% Bush 44% Nader 6%.
2-Way race: Kerry 52% Bush 44%.

Margin of Error: +/- 3%

S_A_M

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Now don't get all Bilmore on me. I advanced no hypothesis, so I have rejected no alternative. The Brits could indeed be sucking; "perfunctory questioning" doesn't seem like a phrase I want my antiterrorism service using, like, ever. Between two years and 8 hours, though, somebody sure isn't assessing these guys accurately. All I did say is that it looks like they may get some cash out of the deal.

I'd love to see a follow up report in three months with these guys living the high life with a tricked out Escalade, drinking malt liquor out of a chalice, stripper pole in the basement, that sort of thing. It would make a good Mastercard commercial, if I weren't sick of everyone in the world using that "....priceless" line.

Anyway, from Gattigap's post I can see I'm not exactly up to the minute here, so I'll end this post now and go start writing my "Kerry to win the Dem nomination" bulletin.

oooh oooooh ooooooh -- this is not a "hypothesis" but do you think that maybe the US people shared with the British people at least some of what they know about the newly released detainees and so maybe the British people took 8 hours or so to confirm the info gathered over 2 years by the US people? Or, now, this is going out on a limb, that the British maybe did some research/investigation regarding the detainees during the two years between when they were originally detained and now?

Nah. I'm sure it's just that the British are willing to take their chances that they are releasing dangerous terrorists out into the world, because it's not like there would be any international issues if the newly released detainees went and did terrorist stuff. I mean, the British are generally into that non-secure stuff, like letting rabid dogs in the country and stuff.

Stuff.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
And you mean it, because (as a WaPo-reported CBS poll showed two weeks back) every single vote of that 6-7% comes from those who would otherwise support Kerry.

Believe it.

(My big fear (?) is that Nader stays in, and comes up to the day before the GE with about 5-6%. Then, in a very planned fit of good civics, he noisily drops out, saying that he's accomplished what he wanted to do, by making "his" issues count in the campaigns, and asks his followers to go to Kerry. That way, Kerry is saved from having to campaign too far left, but still (maybe) gets those votes. Nader rescues the election for the Dems, and tones down the four years of trashing he's received.)

(The (?) is because I'm not certain I would mind a Kerry Pres with a Repub Legislature. Deadlock.)

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
oooh oooooh ooooooh -- this is not a "hypothesis" but do you think that maybe the US people shared with the British people at least some of what they know about the newly released detainees and so maybe the British people took 8 hours or so to confirm the info gathered over 2 years by the US people? Or, now, this is going out on a limb, that the British maybe did some research/investigation regarding the detainees during the two years between when they were originally detained and now?

Nah. I'm sure it's just that the British are willing to take their chances that they are releasing dangerous terrorists out into the world, because it's not like there would be any international issues if the newly released detainees went and did terrorist stuff. I mean, the British are generally into that non-secure stuff, like letting rabid dogs in the country and stuff.

Stuff.

this has been your meanest day in months. is everything okay?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
this has been your meanest day in months. is everything okay?

One word: green b . . . . okay, TWO words: green beer.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
this has been your meanest day in months. is everything okay?

See -- FUNNY!!!!! I am so glad I figured you out.