Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
In the midst of so much human suffering, to call aerial photos of buses the "signature image" of this disaster is truly twisted and wrong. Anyone who could think that has their head lodged far up their ass.

Instead of acknowledging that these pictures really are in New Orleans and that you were wrong to questiong their validity, you now attack people comments about the buses. You just can't admit to being wrong

Maybe it is the signature image because

1) Even though somehow you evaded them, they have been the most common image shown of the hurricane

2) They show how the government was caught completely unprepared for this disaster.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
I am only stating this because you are a moron. I have already raised $20,000 for the relief effort. Two employees of my non-profit are in training right now, along with my sister, and are going to NO next week. What have you done?

Uh, spent all day coordinating physicans who are treating refugees at one of the massive centers in Houston. I'll be at the George R. Brown Convention Center for a lot of the next week.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
The dems have their heads in the sand. Ty and Gatti are so full of shit on this as to attempt to pretend that obvious photo parodies, with markers like strangecosmos.com or sacredcowburgers.com, which are sites that anyone can go to, confuse them as to whether an actual picture of buses in NO underwater are what they obviously are. The bias reeks like fresh cowshite.

Awwww. Touchy, touch-y. Are you honestly surprised that the everyone but the converted stops listening when the speaker never varies from the technique of screaming through a bullhorn?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Translation: I am still in denial.

Me: After reading that post that is all you can come up with? Pathetic.

I read what you posted, and I think, that man is seriously lacking in basic humanity. I read a story last night about a bunch of toddlers found in New Orleans in the care of a six-year-old. I've seen photos of floating bodies and hand-made graves. And the signature image is an aerial photo of buses? I know what it means, but come on, anyone writing that is flying at 30,000 feet, not here on the ground where all of us live.

That picture is illustrative of why people died in such large numbers, i.e. Nagins incompetence before the hurricane even hit. Despite the plan, which I posted, which cited the buses. Please pull your head out of the sand Ty, you are better than this.

No. Please. Even if all those buses had been running -- and they should have been, and someone should be flogged for not getting it done -- we know that many, many people would have chosen to stay in New Orleans. It's what people do.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Leaving the city aside, since I get the thing about the buses and about how Nagin was supposed to go door-to-door to persuade 100,000 people to leave their homes to get on a school bus to go who knows where without any money instead of riding out the storm the way so many people do,

As you said - don't accuse you of defending Nagin, because you have not.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Instead of acknowledging that these pictures really are in New Orleans and that you were wrong to questiong their validity, you now attack people comments about the buses. You just can't admit to being wrong

Maybe it is the signature image because

1) Even though somehow you evaded them, they have been the most common image shown of the hurricane

2) They show how the government was caught completely unprepared for this disaster.

If you think the "signature image" is something that illustrates government unpreparedness, you are lacking some basic humanity. See my other post. I understand the significance of the picture, but believe that anyone who says it is the defining image of the moment is thinking too hard and not feeling.

I apologize to you and Penske and everyone else for getting my news from places other than CNN and FOX, and for going to Napa Valley yesterday instead of watching TV.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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Translation: Is it PLF-ironic that I am an intelligent well educated successful attorney and yet can't tell an actual picture of buses in NO under water from a phottoshoppe bearing the parody brand of strangecosmos.com?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK, from one of my favorite blogs quoting another of them (hi Sebby!), quoting a newspaper, here's something that suggests wild incompetence on the part of the municipal officials in New Orleans:



Crooked Timber (which links to other stuff on city, state and federal preparedness, none of which I've read)

DVDs? This was catering to the population with no car but plenty of DVD players?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
As you said - don't accuse you of defending Nagin, because you have not.

Were you raised in the wild by conservative activists? Do you not understand how people use the English language to construct a series of related thoughts. Talking to you lately is like having a political discussion with a broken Eliza program. Everything I say is echoed in a twisted form. When Hank does this, it's part of his schtick, but you've always been pleasantly earnest.

[Spanky]

You said that you needed more evidence before you could reach the conclusion that the Mayor and the Governor screwed up. Implying that I was remiss in believing they screwed up without more evidence, where there was plenty of evidence the Feds screwed up.

So then Sebastian says:


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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dude, you don't need more substance. You just got whacked on that one, but you don't want to admit it. Spanky's right. You can't claim the state or loacl govt was less responsible than the fed for the mess in NO. You can't even try to make that argument with a straight face.
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Then you say: If I ever start to say something like that, I'll let you know first so you can accuse me of changing my tune. I don't see anyone in the government who's done a good job, so far as I know.

Not changing your tune?

[Southern Patriot]

I would just like to add to all of this my observation that none of us have appropriately thanked President Bush for the fine job he has done.

The man is truly a leader.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Spanky
1) Even though somehow you evaded them, they have been the most common image shown of the hurricane

I'm not getting in the middle of this fight generally because I'm sure Ty can defend himself, but I must say I did not see those photos during any of the many hours I logged watching CNN and MSNBC this weekend*. So, while I don't dispute the validity of the pictures (despite the fact they were linked by Penske) or the responsibility therefor of the local government, there is no way I would agree that thay are the most common image shown of the hurricane. Where is your evidence of this? Or are you talking out of your ass again?



ETA: * (or during the entirety of last week)

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Were you raised in the wild by conservative activists? Do you not understand how people use the English language to construct a series of related thoughts. Talking to you lately is like having a political discussion with a broken Eliza program. Everything I say is echoed in a twisted form. When Hank does this, it's part of his schtick, but you've always been pleasantly earnest.

You are unbelievable. I didn't twist anything. All I did was quote you directly. I simply put your words on the page and you accuse me of twisting. I didn't even try and paraphrase what you said. I simply let the words speak forthemselves. Am I required to post your words, and then post what they really mean?

How can you possibly deny that what I quoted from you was a defense of Nagin?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I'm not getting in the middle of this fight generally because I'm sure Ty can defend himself, but I must say I did not see those photos during any of the many hours I logged watching CNN and MSNBC this weekend. So, while I don't dispute the validity of the pictures (despite the fact they were linked by Penske) or the responsibility therefor of the local government, there is no way I would agree that thay are the most common image shown of the hurricane. Where is your evidence of this? Or are you talking out of your ass again?

They were in every major local newspaper for days, and on one day, on the cover of the Chronicle and the Mercury. In the Mercury the picture was the entire top half of the page. On the evening news I could not get away from that picture. It was lead on every local channel.

You don't find it odd that Ty was able to find all sorts of quotes about the Federal governments screw ups but never saw this picture or heard about the buses. Not to mention the fact that Penske had pointed it out a few hundred times. In addition, don't you find his scepticism of their validity of these pictures a little off the charts. Of course these were not photoshopped. The photoshopped stuff is to parody people. Why would he photo shop a straight photograph trying to make up something that didn't happen. Has he done that before?

Once he was convinced of their validity, why would he defend the fact that these buses were left their to get flooded and critisize the fact that people are focusing on these pictures. Am I the only one sensing a pattern here?

[notcasesensitive]

CNN.com is reporting that a state official has indicated that the Superdome will likely be demolished. I have added a point for that call to each of our Probably Right columns. I'd go back on the FB to determine who was so foolish as to disagree with us, but that seems like too much work. Instead, I'll just assume it was Hank.


ETFS