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01-17-2006, 06:57 PM
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Dream Interpretation
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
RT posted about working class minorities being able to "get it". I think talking about whether this or that group of persons will "get" the message is condescending. The exhibit itself is not offending, but some of the talk about it was, IMO.
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Uh no. I was talking about the public in general until you brought up race and class.
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
I get a little wary when I see those lofty ideals expressed as the purpose of these projects `cause they're usually the lofty ideals of white people. I'm not sure the exhibits are having the "cultural" effect some intend. With "The Gates" (the only one I have poked fun at) I heard a lot of grandiose hoopla that bordered on snobbery and patronizing. These exhibits are usually way cool, but nobody likes to hear artists (or, more typically, their supporters) wax poetic about bringing art to "the little people." To be sure, I think some of these things are super cool (except those goddamn cows!) but the average working man is not going to pop wood over some femmy guy named Christo who wraps shit in foil. On the other hand, a skyscraper-sized puppet show like the one in "Being John Malkovich" might have been enjoyed by a much sizier chunk of the population. [sarcasm] Especially if, like all those lovely new kids movies with talking animals, you had the requisite jive-talking puppet thrown in there. [/sarcasm]
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01-17-2006, 06:57 PM
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Dream Interpretation
Quote:
Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
RT posted about working class minorities being able to "get it". I think talking about whether this or that group of persons will "get" the message is condescending. The exhibit itself is not offending, but some of the talk about it was, IMO.
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Art critics alienating non-art critics? I can't fathom it.
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01-17-2006, 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Installation art, in my opinion, is singularly unique in that it tends to be temporary, it tends to be fairly large and it tends to be site specific.
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Okay, okay, I hear you - thanks. I think the obnoxious chitter chatter about Christo pre-exhibit simply ruined it for me (the "Bruce Springstein" effect perhaps?). I hate it when that happens.
ETA: P.S. Now can we put that nekkid picture back up?
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01-17-2006, 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
"Bruce Springstein"
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WTF?
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01-17-2006, 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Okay, okay, I hear you - thanks. I think the obnoxious chitter chatter about Christo pre-exhibit simply ruined it for me (the "Bruce Springstein" effect perhaps?). I hate it when that happens.
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Interesting. I thought the boringness of the concept ruined it for me.
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01-17-2006, 07:01 PM
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I feel similarly flummoxed when posters here type "Ozzie Osbourne"
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01-17-2006, 07:04 PM
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Dream Interpretation
Quote:
Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
RT posted about working class minorities being able to "get it". I think talking about whether this or that group of persons will "get" the message is condescending. The exhibit itself is not offending, but some of the talk about it was, IMO.
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Ah. Well, I guess the politics board, your firm and the fucking news all keep you in an constant upset state. I don't know how you make it through the day if some stupid snob can get you this worked up over their interpretation and analysis of a piece of art that was up for a few weeks.
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01-17-2006, 07:05 PM
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Dream Interpretation
Quote:
Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Uh no. I was talking about the public in general until you brought up race and class.
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And so was she.
Until you spanked her.
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01-17-2006, 07:06 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
ETA: P.S. Now can we put that nekkid picture back up?
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Sure, the adult board isn't that far away.
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01-17-2006, 07:07 PM
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Wearing the cranky pants
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Don't You Think It's Stupid To Suffer For Art
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01-17-2006, 07:12 PM
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Don't You Think It's Stupid To Suffer For Art
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Originally posted by LessinSF
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Beershit # 37.
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01-17-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Maybe they're just getting some payback for the ideals expressed in the art created by poor minorities. Of course now, all these high-falutin' art types can't get enough graffiti.
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Romans invented graffiti
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01-17-2006, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Other than the gay cowbow stuff, what did you like about Brokeback Mountain?
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yeah. like did they ride the horses normal- even, you know, the next morning?
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01-17-2006, 07:38 PM
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#3884
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Ah. Well, I guess the politics board, your firm and the fucking news all keep you in an constant upset state. I don't know how you make it through the day if some stupid snob can get you this worked up over their interpretation and analysis of a piece of art that was up for a few weeks.
TM
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Oh knock it off. I am barely on these boards anymore and if I want to rant about Bruce Springsteen and Christo know-it-alls occassionally, then fucking deal with it.
Oh, may Abba not dream about orange fabric tonight.
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01-17-2006, 08:13 PM
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#3885
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"I'll Be Back"
Does everyone else hear an accent when they read quotes by Gov. Schwartzenegger?
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California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R), announcing his intention to spend as much as $70 million to provide two weeks' worth of medicine, said he expects a reimbursement. "While I am confident the federal government will resolve the problems with this transition, these people need our help now," he said, "and we're going to be there for them."
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