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Old 10-13-2003, 05:34 PM   #391
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Lieberman Proposes Tax Hike on "Wealthy"

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On the other hand, the $200,000 will be a taxable income number rather than a gross income number, so it will leave out many people who would have gross salaries in excess of $200,000.
It's adjusted gross income not taxable income. So I think that means above-the-line deductions have come out but not itemized ones. Anyway, it's bigger than taxable income. I definitely do not have taxable income of $200,000.

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You need to get a new job. How can anyone live on less than $200,000?
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:37 PM   #392
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I know!!!!! Maybe sgtclub will marry me and let me spend his money.
It's certainly a comfortable living, but I can assure you that in CA it does not make you wealthy, which is still another problem with our present tax code - it doesn't adjust for real dollars by local.
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:38 PM   #393
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It's adjusted gross income not taxable income. So I think that means above-the-line deductions have come out but not itemized ones. Anyway, it's bigger than taxable income. I definitely do not have taxable income of $200,000.



I know!!!!! Maybe sgtclub will marry me and let me spend his money.
On (1), yeh (caught this before your post, na-na na-na-na) so it excludes all that boring erisaey type stuff but not the mortgage and (2) my impression is he wastes it all on club fees and Polo, so make sure you have control over those expenses before tying the knot.
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:41 PM   #394
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(2) my impression is he wastes it all on club fees and Polo, so make sure you have control over those expenses before tying the knot.
Is that the impression I give here? So wrong, I waste it all on porn and booze.
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:46 PM   #395
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Is that the impression I give here? So wrong, I waste it all on porn and booze.
How expensive is porn?

I'm curious whether by "Polo" with a capital P G3 meant the cologne or the sport. Hmmmmm.
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:49 PM   #396
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How expensive is porn?
Like you don't know
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:53 PM   #397
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Like you don't know
I don't use enough to make a dent in my not-as-high-as-yours income, which is why I ask. Maybe I'm only getting cheap, low-quality porn!! Or maybe by "porn" you mean "high-cost call girls." I don't know how much they get paid. Couldn't break into the profession.
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Old 10-13-2003, 06:03 PM   #398
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I don't use enough to make a dent in my not-as-high-as-yours income, which is why I ask. Maybe I'm only getting cheap, low-quality porn!! Or maybe by "porn" you mean "high-cost call girls." I don't know how much they get paid. Couldn't break into the profession.
Well there's also quantity. Perhaps you need to increase your weekly porn allocation. But you are right, it also encompasses strippers and hookers and those are the big ticket items. Plus, you can't have hookers without blow (don't ask, it's just a rule) and that's a big ticket item too, even where you live I imagine.
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Well there's also quantity. Perhaps you need to increase your weekly porn allocation
What are you trying to say here?
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Plus, you can't have hookers without blow (don't ask, it's just a rule) and that's a big ticket item too, even where you live I imagine.
Is that for your use, or theirs, or both? If "porn" encompasses "drugs" than I can see how it could get expensive.
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Governator Arnold had his first Sacramento get-together the other night at the home of campaign strategist Bob White . . .

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The 70 or so people at the party also included a number of lobbyists, one of whom went up to Schwarzenegger and joked, "Hi -- I'm one of those special interests you promised to get rid of."

At which point Gov. Arnold threw his arm around the guy and laughed, "I lied."
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Old 10-14-2003, 04:23 PM   #401
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Differences Between Left and Right

From Denis Prager's 10/14 column:

The Left believes in removing America's Judeo-Christian identity, e.g., removing "under God" from the Pledge, "In God we trust" from the currency, the oath to God and country from the Boy Scouts Pledge, etc.

The Right believes that destroying these symbols and this identity is tantamount to destroying America.

The Left regards America as morally inferior to many European societies with their abolition of the death penalty, cradle-to-grave welfare and religion-free life; and it does not believe that there are distinctive American values worth preserving.

The Right regards America as the last best hope for humanity and believes that there are distinctive American values -- the unique combination of a religious (Judeo-Christian) society, a secular government, personal liberty and capitalism -- worth fighting and dying for.

The Left believes that impersonal companies, multinational and otherwise, with their insatiable drive for profits, have a profoundly destructive effect on the country.

The Right believes that the legal system, particularly trial lawyers, lawsuits and judges who make laws, is the greater threat to American society.

The Left believes multiculturalism should be the ideal for American schools and for government policy.

The Right believes that the Americanization of all its citizens is indispensable to the survival of the United States.

The Left believes that the Boy Scouts as currently constituted pose a moral threat to society.

The Right believes the Boy Scouts continue to be one of the greatest moral institutions in the country.

The Left believes in equality more than in liberty. The Right believes more in liberty. For example, the Left believes that for the equality's sake, men's clubs must accept women. The Right believes that for liberty's sake, associations must be free to choose their own members.

The Left believes that when schools give out condoms to teenagers, they are promoting safe sex.

The Right believes that when schools give out condoms, they are promoting more sex.

The Left believes that poverty, racism and psychopathology cause violent crime.

The Right believes a lack of self-control, lack of religious practice and lack of good values are the primary causes of violent crime.

The Left believes that "war is not the answer." The Right believes that war is often the only answer to governmental evil.
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From Denis Prager's 10/14 column:

The Left believes in removing America's Judeo-Christian identity, e.g., removing "under God" from the Pledge, "In God we trust" from the currency, the oath to God and country from the Boy Scouts Pledge, etc.

The Right believes that destroying these symbols and this identity is tantamount to destroying America.

The Left regards America as morally inferior to many European societies with their abolition of the death penalty, cradle-to-grave welfare and religion-free life; and it does not believe that there are distinctive American values worth preserving.

The Right regards America as the last best hope for humanity and believes that there are distinctive American values -- the unique combination of a religious (Judeo-Christian) society, a secular government, personal liberty and capitalism -- worth fighting and dying for.

The Left believes that impersonal companies, multinational and otherwise, with their insatiable drive for profits, have a profoundly destructive effect on the country.

The Right believes that the legal system, particularly trial lawyers, lawsuits and judges who make laws, is the greater threat to American society.

The Left believes multiculturalism should be the ideal for American schools and for government policy.

The Right believes that the Americanization of all its citizens is indispensable to the survival of the United States.

The Left believes that the Boy Scouts as currently constituted pose a moral threat to society.

The Right believes the Boy Scouts continue to be one of the greatest moral institutions in the country.

The Left believes in equality more than in liberty. The Right believes more in liberty. For example, the Left believes that for the equality's sake, men's clubs must accept women. The Right believes that for liberty's sake, associations must be free to choose their own members.

The Left believes that when schools give out condoms to teenagers, they are promoting safe sex.

The Right believes that when schools give out condoms, they are promoting more sex.

The Left believes that poverty, racism and psychopathology cause violent crime.

The Right believes a lack of self-control, lack of religious practice and lack of good values are the primary causes of violent crime.

The Left believes that "war is not the answer." The Right believes that war is often the only answer to governmental evil.
Do you actually agree with this, or is this intended as satire?
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Old 10-14-2003, 05:39 PM   #403
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Differences Between Left and Right

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Do you actually agree with this, or is this intended as satire?
The Left believes that sgt club believes this.

The Right does not understand how anyone could not believe it.
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Old 10-14-2003, 05:45 PM   #404
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Do you actually agree with this, or is this intended as satire?
Not categorically, but if you insert "FAR" before "LEFT" and "RIGHT" I think it is generally true. I just found it interesting and, since no one had posted for a while, I thought it might rev things up.
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Old 10-14-2003, 05:47 PM   #405
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The Left believes that sgt club believes this.

The Right does not understand how anyone could not believe it.
Sgtclub believes you should be more specific. Which of the items do you believe are not an objective statement?
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