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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I've said this same thing about maternity leave (or the family medical leave - whatever). Why can't I get time off paid? Everyone else has to cover for the person taking the time off (men and women) - why can't you cover for me while I flit off to Europe?

Why do the people who get cancer get all that time off while they're dying. Is that fair to those of us who'll die instantly from a heart attack or bus accident?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Because it is public policy in this country to encourage reproduction (there is a war going on, you know*). So child-rearing is on an elevated plane. Sucks to be us.


*oh, and a social security crisis.

Anything everybody can do is not laudable or worthy of congratulations. I am always amazed when I hear people congratulate somebody who has more kids than he/she can handle for "sacrificing." WTF? A person who bites off more than he can chew, placing himself under huge debt, should be rewarded for lack of forethought?

Overcoming ostacles is worthy of reward. Having a kid is nice, fine and dandy, but its not something society needs to encourage. Shit, we can't pay for the people we have.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I've said this same thing about maternity leave (or the family medical leave - whatever). Why can't I get time off paid? Everyone else has to cover for the person taking the time off (men and women) - why can't you cover for me while I flit off to Europe?

Because you inevitably come back.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Someone is in for a surprise (maybe pleasant, maybe not -- YMMV).

***

If Taylor is over (say) 2, or if Mommy chooses to belt that shit out over the plane, I'm with ya, RP.

But I remember reading once that for the very early ages, high, sing songy, repetitive voices make a difference. My wife and I mocked my MIL with all that shit because it made her sound like the fifth Tellitubbie, but we noticed it had an effect, and then we read some such shit that suggested that it actually helps communication.

Like I say, it should be used only in moderation, and only with infants or with Sidd. And in public it should be whispered, so the chances of looking like a fucking idiot are raised no more than necessary.

Yes, I understand that about the sing songy thing working with little ones. My point was as you note about the person being loud in a public place from which nobody can escape. And maybe it's hard to turn it on and off, but PLEASE DON'T talk to your spouse in the same tone of voice.

Or more accurately, PLEASE GOD don't let me do so.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Why is it that people can take time/days off by pleading "children" issues, yet I can't waltz in on Monday at 11 and say "Well, I was feeling rather toxic after the weekend and figured I'd sleep in late and hit the gym before coming in." If we're both missing the same time, why is one excuse A OK but the other not? Shouldn't the childless get equal "personal time" to put them on even footing with the free time parents get?*

* And don't say its not "free time" when you're dealing with kid issues. Any time for personal issues outside of work is "free time." You choose how to spend it.

I did that today. No problem.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'd have taken the job for their sake if they had been hotter.

Yet also more desperate?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I've said this same thing about maternity leave (or the family medical leave - whatever). Why can't I get time off paid? Everyone else has to cover for the person taking the time off (men and women) - why can't you cover for me while I flit off to Europe?

Jesus Christ. Now you're all starting to sound like Leo with your "This isn't fair! Why do they get something I don't get? I want it too!"

TM

[Penske Material]

Originally posted by BloatedSlave
Nice sock, Penske.

Hey, everyone has an off day.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Someone is in for a surprise (maybe pleasant, maybe not -- YMMV).

***

If Taylor is over (say) 2, or if Mommy chooses to belt that shit out over the plane, I'm with ya, RP.

But I remember reading once that for the very early ages, high, sing songy, repetitive voices make a difference. My wife and I mocked my MIL with all that shit because it made her sound like the fifth Tellitubbie, but we noticed it had an effect, and then we read some such shit that suggested that it actually helps communication.

Like I say, it should be used only in moderation, and only with infants or with Sidd. And in public it should be whispered, so the chances of looking like a fucking idiot are raised no more than necessary.

I hate, but realize I just have to tolerate, hysterical crying. Once crying gets to a certain point, there's nothing the parent can do, even if the kid is past infancy. Other than maybe smother it like the last episode of MASH -- which I think was on a bus, Slave.

I am short, and generally get a window seat and read for the entire flight. I did trade an aisle seat for a middle seat on a cross-country flight last fall because the woman in the middle seat had a UTI. What a fucking misery. She ended up standing most of the flight anyway. Anyway, I just wanted to point out I'm not all bad. I even offered it to her after she apologized for asking me to get up for the second time in 10 min after the fasten seat belts went off.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Yes, I understand that about the sing songy thing working with little ones. My point was as you note about the person being loud in a public place from which nobody can escape. And maybe it's hard to turn it on and off, but PLEASE DON'T talk to your spouse in the same tone of voice.

Or more accurately, PLEASE GOD don't let me do so.

We mock the things we are to be. Keep that in mind.

[Not Bob's Id]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Yet also more desperate?

To paraphrase Garrett Morris's question to Mick Jagger, where are these hot yet desperate women?

Where, bilmore, where?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Yet also more desperate?

Nah, I just like hot people in the office for aesthetic reasons. I wouldn't fuck someone I worked with -- you risk getting her pregnant and turning into some hormonal freak-bitch.


(Who loves ya, Arpy?)

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Because you inevitably come back.

Hey, if you'll cover for me, I'm gone.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Anything everybody can do is not laudable or worthy of congratulations. I am always amazed when I hear people congratulate somebody who has more kids than he/she can handle for "sacrificing." WTF? A person who bites off more than he can chew, placing himself under huge debt, should be rewarded for lack of forethought?

Overcoming ostacles is worthy of reward. Having a kid is nice, fine and dandy, but its not something society needs to encourage. Shit, we can't pay for the people we have.

some peopel don't count the country club membership as a necessary expense associated with having a kid.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
We mock the things we are to be. Keep that in mind.

True. Sigh. But hey, on the bright side, I get three months' paid fucking vacation (more if I have a c-section or go on bedrest or nearly explode from preeclampsia), baybee, and a lifetime's worth of excuses. That will be so much less work than coming up with the bullshit ones I have now (furniture delivery, repairman, doctor, dentist, family illness, death in family, dog sick, CLE, etc. etc. etc.)