Still Hating America.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So is The Surge kind of like using the hose and a supersoaker?

And now there are no more bees. Fuckers.

The Germans think it's the cell phones, not the super-soakers.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That caricature is exactly what I'd expect from some jackass who thinks he's "high brow." The simple fact is, Opie & Anthony, Howard and Imus are just fucking funny.

I listened to a fucking David McCullough book when I wasn't listening to Opie & Anthony on the road last week and had dinner with gay people two nights ago. Am I cultured enough? Perhaps I could talk about "acceptance" and "tolerance" with people more often. I watched South Park for two hours yesterday, then "The Squid and the Whale." Where would that tool place on his "troglodyte to 'elite'" meter? Is Jeff Daniels indie enough? It was a Wes Andersen vehicle. Ahem, ahem.

I know you're distancing yourself from that quote, and that's a good thing, because that attitude - that "I am such a cultured person and you're not" stuff - is such insecure horseshit. It's a way for effete douchebags to try to define themselves because they have no real creativity to hold them apart from the masses.

I like locker room humor, and I laugh at really, really rotten things all the time. So do we all. So what? It's just human.

PS: Who would you rather have a drink with - class clown or head of the students for tolerance and understanding club? They're not mutually exclusive, but I assure, one tends to be a hell of a lot more fun than the other. Ever had dinner with someone who had a real hard for "justice" issues or fancied himself an academic (as opposed to an actual academic)? They can't get the drinks to you fast enough.

You won't like this editorial either, I have a hunch. I don't entirely agree with Fierstein that PC is always the way to go, because I think you would lose some great satire and comedy (good example is South Park), but I do think it is a bit artibrary where the "you've gone too far" line gets drawn.

In this case, I don't think what Imus said was particularly more offensive than shit he's said hundreds of times before. He's a radio shock jock, for heaven's sake. It is (was), like, his job to say ignorant racist, sexist and otherwise offensive stuff. Sponsors pull out after that comment? If they cared about not sponsoring anti-PC crap, why were they sponsoring his show at all? Oh, right, money.

[bi-partisanship fairy]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
You won't like this editorial either, I have a hunch. I don't entirely agree with Fierstein that PC is always the way to go, because I think you would lose some great satire and comedy (good example is South Park), but I do think it is a bit artibrary where the "you've gone too far" line gets drawn.

In this case, I don't think what Imus said was particularly more offensive than shit he's said hundreds of times before. He's a radio shock jock, for heaven's sake. It is (was), like, his job to say ignorant racist, sexist and otherwise offensive stuff. Sponsors pull out after that comment? If they cared about not sponsoring anti-PC crap, why were they sponsoring his show at all? Oh, right, money.

I love Harvey as much as the next bi-partisan fairy, but in the spirit of bi-partisanship, I have to wonder how much tolerance he has for Republicans. And/or Christian Republicans.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
You won't like this editorial either, I have a hunch. I don't entirely agree with Fierstein that PC is always the way to go, because I think you would lose some great satire and comedy (good example is South Park), but I do think it is a bit artibrary where the "you've gone too far" line gets drawn.

In this case, I don't think what Imus said was particularly more offensive than shit he's said hundreds of times before. He's a radio shock jock, for heaven's sake. It is (was), like, his job to say ignorant racist, sexist and otherwise offensive stuff. Sponsors pull out after that comment? If they cared about not sponsoring anti-PC crap, why were they sponsoring his show at all? Oh, right, money.

Actually, I liked that editorial. I can't help but like Fierstein because I think he's a good actor with great comic timing.

I also agree with his position that if there must be PC behavior, it should apply to gay slurs.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Is there anyone who doubts at least once today Imus muttered to himself under his breath, "You dumb bastard. If you'd just stayed off that fat fuck's show and made it to the weekend, they'd have forgotten that 'nappy headed hos' thing like Disco in this week's news cycle."

Creepy, but you know it happened.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Is there anyone who doubts at least once today Imus muttered to himself under his breath, "You dumb bastard. If you'd just stayed off that fat fuck's show and made it to the weekend, they'd have forgotten that 'nappy headed hos' thing like Disco in this week's news cycle."

Creepy, but you know it happened.

Maybe Tommy Thomson should go on Sharpton to explain this:

• WASHINGTON - Former Wisconsin governor and Republican presidential hopeful Tommy Thompson told Jewish activists Monday that making money is "part of the Jewish tradition," and something that he applauded.
  
  Speaking to an audience at the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism in Washington D.C., Thompson said that, "I'm in the private sector and for the first time in my life I'm earning money. You know that's sort of part of the Jewish tradition and I do not find anything wrong with that."
  
  Thompson later apologized for the comments that had caused a stir in the audience, saying that he had meant it as a compliment, and had only wanted to highlight the "accomplishments" of the Jewish religion.
  
  "I just want to clarify something because I didn't [by] any means want to infer or imply anything about Jews and finances and things," he said.
  
  "What I was referring to, ladies and gentlemen, is the accomplishments of the Jewish religion. You've been outstanding business people and I compliment you for that."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/849062.html

I hear they're also a very musical people.

[the Jewish People]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Maybe Tommy Thomson should go on Sharpton to explain this:

Yes, also maybe Rev. Sharpton wants to come over to our house and explain what he meant when he said

“If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house."

during the Crown Heights crisis.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by the Jewish People
Yes, also maybe Rev. Sharpton wants to come over to our house and explain what he meant when he said

“If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house."

during the Crown Heights crisis.

does Sharpton live in Hymietown?

[bi-partisanship fairy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
does Sharpton live in Hymietown?

Maybe yes, maybe no, but in the spirit of bi-partisanship, as he once noted to a Keane College audience, he did what he could to enlighten the cave dwelling Greek homos:

“White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos** ever got around to it.”

**Sharpton defended his comments by noting that the term “homo” was not homophobic. [ED NOTE: Of course not, obviously from the context it was complimentary]

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by the Jewish People
Yes, also maybe Rev. Sharpton wants to come over to our house and explain what he meant when he said

“If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house."

during the Crown Heights crisis.

My point exactly. They could have Imus on to reprise his "boner-nosed, beanie-wearing Jew boy" comments and find some common ground.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
My point exactly. They could have Imus on to reprise his "boner-nosed, beanie-wearing Jew boy" comments and find some common ground.

Don't forget to invite Michael Ray Richardson and have him bring his crafty lawyer:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2816356

[bi-partisanship fairy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
My point exactly. They could have Imus on to reprise his "boner-nosed, beanie-wearing Jew boy" comments and find some common ground.

Agreed. Perhaps Imus could teach Rev. Al about the act of contrition, since, unlike apologizing Imus, Sharpton has never—in twenty years—had the courage or the decency to acknowledge the damage his lying defamation in the Tawana Brawley matter did to Steven Pagones (former prosecutor, whose life has been destroyed for all practical purposes), nor has he apologized for it. Never. Ever.

Not even following Pagones court judgment against Sharpton for defamtion, for which Pagones was awared $345,000, which Sharpton never paid.

The Rutgers girsl bb team can go on with their lives knowing that the hateful Imus has been properly punished, and yet, Pagones is denied justice. Where's the outrage now?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bi-partisanship fairy
Agreed. Perhaps Imus could teach Rev. Al about the act of contrition, since, unlike apologizing Imus, Sharpton has never—in twenty years—had the courage or the decency to acknowledge the damage his lying defamation in the Tawana Brawley matter did to Steven Pagones (former prosecutor, whose life has been destroyed for all practical purposes), nor has he apologized for it. Never. Ever.

Not even following Pagones court judgment against Sharpton for defamtion, for which Pagones was awared $345,000, which Sharpton never paid.

The Rutgers girsl bb team can go on with their lives knowing that the hateful Imus has been properly punished, and yet, Pagones is denied justice. Where's the outrage now?

Go for it.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Go for it.

Has anyone bought that judgment from Pagones?

'Cause I got a line of credit and that thing can't go for more than a nickel on the dollar...

ETA: The judgment against Sharpton is only $65k, and a lawyer on Long Island is pursuing it still. From what I've read, it sounds like someone would have to bring a fraudulent transfer claim because Sharpton has put all of his assets in relatives' names and runs every expense through his "business."

Someone should buy it and give it to Imus. That'd be so perfectly comical.

PS: Tawana owes $185k to Pagones. That paper's not worth snot.

[Replaced_Texan]

hmph. False alarm.