A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes

[Adder]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I also used to think Adder was a flaming liberal, but there have been a couple of times lately where I've actually agreed with him, so now I'm not so sure.

Amazing how a little social security discussion will confuse things.

Ad(anyone got a fire extinguisher?)der

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Is that like the opposite of, or at least an inferior, bon mot?

It's one with mutliple layers of meaning. If you string together enough submots, you can create a lite motif.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I would think that an intelligent guy like you would realize how incredibly stupid the phrase "homicide bomber" sounds. It's even more transparent and pathetic than "freedom fries."

It's stupid shit like this that makes me wonder if the structuralists weren't at least partly right. Because if they were, and if these examples are the best we can do to define the Iraq construct, we're fucked for generations.

I don't really understand what you were trying to say, but under the threat from being expelled by the conservative club, I don't like the phrase "homicide bomber" either. It is simply less acurate than "suicide bomber". A homicide bomber is anyone that throws a hand grenade and kills someone. It is important to use the term suicide bomber because it demonstrates that someone was willing to throw away their own life to complete the act. Not being able to use the phrase like suicide bomber smacks of political correctness. Can you imagine how absurd it would be if we had to call Kamikazi pilots from WWII homicide pilots instead of suicide pilots - or their missions homicide mission and not suicide mission. I think people don't like to use the term suicide bomber because it shows these people have conviction. They may be misguided and have totally twisted reasoning, but people only sacrifice themselves for a cause if they have deep conviction. If we forget how deep their conviction is, we run the risk of understimating them, and you never want to underestimate your opponent. This reminds of when Bill Maher lost his show for saying that the pilots of the planes on 9-11 were not cowards. He was right. They were evil and twisted etc. but they were not cowards. Conservatives find political correctness scary because you can be branded a racist sexist, etc even for stating the facts. You should always be able to tell the truth. It is when the truth becomes dangerous to speak, that our civil liberties are most under threat. These people are suicide bombers and we just have to deal with the fact that these people believe so strongly for what they are doing that they are willing to sacrifice their lives.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Spanky
I don't really understand what you were trying to say, but under the threat from being expelled by the conservative club, I don't like the phrase "homicide bomber" either. It is simply less acurate than "suicide bomber". A homicide bomber is anyone that throws a hand grenade and kills someone. It is important to use the term suicide bomber because it demonstrates that someone was willing to throw away their own life to complete the act. Not being able to use the phrase like suicide bomber smacks of political correctness. Can you imagine how absurd it would be if we had to call Kamikazi pilots from WWII homicide pilots instead of suicide pilots - or their missions homicide mission and not suicide mission. I think people don't like to use the term suicide bomber because it shows these people have conviction. They may be misguided and have totally twisted reasoning, but people only sacrifice themselves for a cause if they have deep conviction. If we forget how deep their conviction is, we run the risk of understimating them, and you never want to underestimate your opponent. This reminds of when Bill Maher lost his show for saying that the pilots of the planes on 9-11 were not cowards. He was right. They were evil and twisted etc. but they were not cowards. Conservatives find political correctness scary because you can be branded a racist sexist, etc even for stating the facts. You should always be able to tell the truth. It is when the truth becomes dangerous to speak, that our civil liberties are most under threat. These people are suicide bombers and we just have to deal with the fact that these people believe so strongly for what they are doing that they are willing to sacrifice their lives.

Spanky, you weren't here the last time this issue came up, but I think we got a consensus for suicide-homicide bomber.

[bilmore]

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I knew I was forgetting someone. I also forgot Sidd.

1. Never do rankings. You invariably hurt feelings.

2. If I'm the most conservative here, this is a highly liberal board.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by bilmore

What the fuck is with his long hair? Fucking pansy.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by bilmore

2. If I'm the most conservative here, this is a highly liberal board.

Take it to bbboy, jesus freak.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Take it to bbboy, jesus freak.

"bbboy"?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by bilmore
this is a highly liberal board.

Yep

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by bilmore
"bbboy"?

i thought you were old-skool

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Yep

Or, y'all get pushed into taking more conservative positions than you might really hold.

Actually I think this is a pretty damn centrist board. How dull.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ltl/fb


Actually I think this is a pretty damn centrist board. How dull.

Please. We don't have any hard-core right wingers, which make up a decent chunk of the country's midsection. We more reflect the political spectrum of the higher education system through which we've all been. Well, Hank excepted--he's still there.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Please. We don't have any hard-core right wingers, which make up a decent chunk of the country's midsection. We more reflect the political spectrum of the higher education system through which we've all been. Well, Hank excepted--he's still there.

you think I'm in law school? Nope. Couldn't get in.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you think I'm in law school?

High school, Hank. Or did you move onto the GED program?