Still Hating America.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Are you talking about Bush or Gonzalez?

Bush. Gonzales is a smart guy who's stuck playing bullet catcher.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bush. Gonzales is a smart guy who's stuck playing bullet catcher.

I don't think Gonzales is stupid, but he's clearly out of his league. His time as a V&E transactional lawyer did little to prepare him to be AG.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think Bush feels that if he doesn't back Gonzales, he's showing weakness and asking for more trouble.

Huh.

• One White House adviser (who asked not to be ID'ed talking about sensitive issues) said the support reflected Bush's own view that a Gonzales resignation would embolden the Dems to go after other targets—like Karl Rove. "This is about Bush saying, 'Screw you'," said the adviser, conceding that a Gonzales resignation might still be inevitable. The trick, said the adviser, would be to find a graceful exit strategy for Bush's old friend.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18246425/site/newsweek/

Sort of like Hank's "so what?"

[Adder]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think Bush feels that if he doesn't back Gonzales, he's showing weakness and asking for more trouble.

This describes the reasoning behind just about every decision Bush has made since 9/12/2001. And it explains why nearly all of them have been bad.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

And it didn't even make the PB. How soon we forget.

"A man must live like a great, bright flame and burn as brightly as he can. In the end, he burns out. But this is better than a mean, little flame."

-- Boris Yeltsin

He has a very complex legacy, and he unfortunately "burned out" at least a couple years before he actually retired, but its worthy of note.

S_A_M

P.S. Just because I've chosen to live my life as a mean little flame doesn't mean I can't admire the other kind.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't think Gonzales is stupid, but he's clearly out of his league. His time as a V&E transactional lawyer did little to prepare him to be AG.

blog cite or resume cite to support your ability to make this statement.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
And it didn't even make the PB. How soon we forget.

"A man must live like a great, bright flame and burn as brightly as he can. In the end, he burns out. But this is better than a mean, little flame."

-- Boris Yeltsin

He has a very complex legacy, and he unfortunately "burned out" at least a couple years before he actually retired, but its worthy of note.

S_A_M

P.S. Just because I've chosen to live my life as a mean little flame doesn't mean I can't admire the other kind.

76? There is NO reason to stop drinking, smoking, eating sausage, repressing dissidents, etc...

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
blog cite or resume cite to support your ability to make this statement.

GFY

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
blog cite or resume cite to support your ability to make this statement.

Donald Rumsfeld said that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Adder
This describes the reasoning behind just about every decision Bush has made since 9/12/2001. And it explains why nearly all of them have been bad.

I've been thinking about this: beyond the decision to invade Iraq, all the other "bad" things are trumped up Bullshit.

Iraq was only "bad" in retrospect when we find that Sadaam was bluffing about WMDs. I'm not going to repeat the quotes that show the fact that EVERYONE thought he did have them. now, since everyone thought he did have them the only question is what do you do about it.

I suppose your answer would be to have 200000 troops sitting on the Iraq border to try to keep Sadaam in check. That's fine, but none of you admit to that being your position. You all monday morning QB starting with the assumption you know Sadaam was bluffing- which is, of course, bullshit.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
GFY

Ty, do I have to continue to put up with this abuse?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ty, do I have to continue to put up with this abuse?

Why don't your clever little macro for a time when a blog is cited? In the meantime, go back to the kids table and let the adults have a conversation.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Iraq was only "bad" in retrospect when we find that Sadaam was bluffing about WMDs.

It was a bad idea ex ante because Iraq didn't have WMD. Another way to put this is that it was a terrific plan in the petri dish of the prevailing political wisdom, but could not survive when confronted with reality. House fires are bad only when the air contains oxygen.

I'm not going to repeat the quotes that show the fact that EVERYONE thought he did have them. now, since everyone thought he did have them the only question is what do you do about it.

It's a good thing that you're not going to post about this, because it would still be wrong. There were plently of people who doubted the existence of WMD and said so. Few political leaders in this country said so. But you are confusing what U.S. politicians say with reality.

All of this aside, it was a bad idea for the reason stated by Sen. Obama in his recent foreign policy address:

• In 2002, I stated my opposition to the war in Iraq, not only because it was an unnecessary diversion from the struggle against the terrorists who attacked us on September 11th, but also because it was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the threats that 9/11 brought to light. I believed then, and believe now, that it was based on old ideologies and outdated strategies – a determination to fight a 21st century struggle with a 20th century mindset.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ty, do I have to continue to put up with this abuse?

No. You could go postal* or use the ignore button, I suppose.

* A weak effort at a Bukowski reference.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No. You could go postal* or use the ignore button, I suppose.

* A weak effort at a Bukowski reference.

He could also post pictures of bodies falling from the WTC and cause me to put him back on ignore.

Or he could cite to a blog, har har har.