Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Clothing is optional on the PB.

unless you got something to hide, if you know what I mean..

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
for you to admit that much is a start. but I never said you weren't above average intelligence. i think you're pretty smart, not like atticus- he's an idiot who can't follow logic. I am disappointed that you just dismiss anything that would point to maybe my side's right. but you're not ignorant. you're dogmatic. FWIW, you seem to be 100% dogmatic.

[confidential to Hank]Why are you wasting time an energy on this debate? Did you ever realize that while those on our side (and some more than others) will criticize Bush and commend Kerry when due, the reverse never happens? Just sit back, take your pot shots, and wait till it gets settled in January. We win either way. Either Bush is in fo fo mo, or we get to beat up on Kerry for 4 years. [/confidential to Hank]

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by sgtclub
[confidential to Hank]Why are you wasting time an energy on this debate? Did you ever realize that while those on our side (and some more than others) will criticize Bush and commend Kerry when due, the reverse never happens? Just sit back, take your pot shots, and wait till it gets settled in January. We win either way. Either Bush is in fo fo mo, or we get to beat up on Kerry for 4 years. [/confidential to Hank]

eta: I invented "Kerry Lied, Kerry Lied."

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Are you serious? PM Ty and ask him who'd likely win if you do the evolution/creationism fight with me.

Are you just trolling again or are you saying you are truly a creationist?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Are you just trolling again or are you saying you are truly a creationist?

Short answer- (this normally takes 10 posts to spring the trap- and we've done this about 6 times so i don't want to again)
No, i'm not a creationist.
I'm a "there is no really proven explaination for why we're here."

Because

Creationism = you believe in miracles

What people call "evolution"*=you believe in a string of several billion to one occurences, with a few w/o any explaination.

I'll say "If you want to cite science,you need to understand it can be wrong, just because a scientist said it does not make it any more unquestionable than if a priest says it."

i can't do it now, but the simple point is don't be pompous against people who are creationist. it is not a magnitude of difference away from evolution, as a dumb guy theory.

*I'm not talking about mastedons became elephants. that makes sense. one problem for me is how did single celled plants become animals with multiple cells and specialized cells (ie blood vessals). I want to believe in evolution, but no one can give me a theory, even google- our new god.

ps. I never troll. i fuck with people, but only when absolutely necessary.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Not Me
What is that a reference to? There is no way I believe that Nancy would alllow a dick in her mouth. In case you think I am partisan on this issue, there is no way I would believe that Hilllary would allow a dick in her mouth, either.

If this isn't the saddest possible expression of a conservative outlook on life, I don't know what is.

Ad(keep hope alive)der

[Adder]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oy veh. For the 50th time, I actually believe in a creating force of some sort. I mean, something staretd this whole thing, right?

Well. If you say so.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So why do Bush supporters show such a resistance to accepting dissonant information?

Faith.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Adder
Faith.

I know you have good intentions for what you hope your posts will achieve; still I think you should get the board to agree with you before you post. I would suggest you PM club and bilmore and only post if they agree with the content. I think then you could be sure all your posts are justified. Cheers! bon chance!

[Adder]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
What people call "evolution"*=you believe in a string of several billion to one occurences, with a few w/o any explaination.

If you think it is without any explanation, you are not paying attention to the evidence. One need only consider the change in colors of mothes or the mutation of baceteria that produce penicillin to believe the organisms can change in ways that make their survival more likely.

If you believe in these small mutations, and you note the obvious similarities between humans and, say, chimps, why are you resistant to evolution as an explanation for the variety of life?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Adder
If you think it is without any explanation, you are not paying attention to the evidence. One need only consider the change in colors of mothes or the mutation of baceteria that produce penicillin to believe the organisms can change in ways that make their survival more likely.

If you believe in these small mutations, and you note the obvious similarities between humans and, say, chimps, why are you resistant to evolution as an explanation for the variety of life?

I agree with your examples! how did a single celled plant come to have blood vessals. All I want is 1 theory. hint: Ty and Atticus are staying out of this for a reason.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ps. I never troll. i fuck with people, but only when absolutely necessary.

And this is why I love you.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I agree with your examples! how did a single celled plant come to have blood vessals. All I want is 1 theory. hint: Ty and Atticus are staying out of this for a reason.

I can't speak for AG, but in my case that reason is a 2001 Marietta Old Vine Zinfandel.



Yummy.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Short answer- (this normally takes 10 posts to spring the trap- and we've done this about 6 times so i don't want to again)

Sorta like if a foreman turned to a construction crew and says "we've done good work today, this prison will hold society's worst". Mr. Chinaski, you mind if I cut out early today... I've finished my second one this year and the inmates seem a bit angry.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Adder
If you think it is without any explanation, you are not paying attention to the evidence. One need only consider the change in colors of mothes or the mutation of baceteria that produce penicillin to believe the organisms can change in ways that make their survival more likely.

If you believe in these small mutations, and you note the obvious similarities between humans and, say, chimps, why are you resistant to evolution as an explanation for the variety of life?

3 words that add a full range of examples to what you are saying here. Guns, Germs & Steel. Giving humans the ability to domesticate animals and selectively modify plants and other living organisms was surely one of the 10 greatest gifts God gave man. And, along with opposable thumbs and that part of our brain that isn't dulled by crack, it separates us from every other living creature!