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Old 11-03-2005, 02:37 PM   #4876
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SAM change your avatar and your political stance. If this case is their best hope, the guy's a shoe-in. Did these guys even go to law school?
I don't think that case will be the best hope.

However, I think he's got some splainin' to do about this one.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:42 PM   #4877
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It's bizarre that an avowed lesbian priest getting defrocked by the Methodist church is a news story. dallas article

Don't most people think of the United Methodist Church as fairly redneck?
Um. No. Especially not the rednecks, who think the Methodists are all going to burn in hell. The issue of openly sexually active gay clergy is a hot, hot issue in the church right now, a fact that in itself belies a redneck lable. (If they were truely redneck, there wouldn't be a debate at all). They already allow celebate gay clergy. They're no Universalists, but that's not bad as the christian spectrum goes.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:47 PM   #4878
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SAM change your avatar and your political stance. If this case is their best hope, the guy's a shoe-in. Did these guys even go to law school?
I don't think its a best hope. Hell, it's not that out of line with other really, really offensively stupid things the Supremes have allowed cops to get away with. I don't even think that Alito shouldn't be put on the Court. He's clearly qualifed and its your choice. Thems the rules. Doesn't mean I can't bitch about it, though, at least until the originalists decide to start treating the First Amendment like the Fourth.

But I think okaying the anal probing of a ten-year-old might get a little traction, with the right spin.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:48 PM   #4879
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Um. No. Especially not the rednecks, who think the Methodists are all going to burn in hell. The issue of openly sexually active gay clergy is a hot, hot issue in the church right now, a fact that in itself belies a redneck lable. (If they were truely redneck, there wouldn't be a debate at all). They already allow celebate gay clergy. They're no Universalists, but that's not bad as the christian spectrum goes.
Especially in Dallas.

Methodists = old money, comparatively accepting of various lifestyles and races
Baptists = not that
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:18 PM   #4880
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So I'm going to pull a Ty and quote a [admittedly radically left wing, but see his analysis of Alito in Casey] blog written by a public defender, which I think really nails the problem:
from your little blog
  • Who, incidentally, testified under oath that the reason the "four corners" of the warrant didn't include the names of the people to be searched, beyond the dealer himself, was--wait for it--because there wasn't enough room on the form to write them in.

They use forms, they try their best, and sometimes they screw up. Do you remember the case which said the warrent is okay if the cop had a decent belief it was? There a FORM warrent was grabbed that was intended for narc busts. The form said "search for drugs and ______." The cop grabbed the form and filled in evidence of murder. The suspect was being looked at for killing a kid, no evidence of drug use.

The evidence he did kill the kid was going to be thrown out because----wait for it--- there was no evidence of drug use. Holding was essentially rot in hell fuck. The cop intended to do right.

continuing-
  • Besides the fact that I've never actually come across a drug dealer willing to use a child to hide contraband--even they consider that distasteful, which is why they generally use a toilet instead, despite the sick fantasies of certain narcotics detectives

It sounds nice in New Hampshire!

But here, in Detroit, the biggest herion ring a few years back was young Boys, Inc. No Penske was not involved. It was a ring that used preteen boys to handle the drugs, so that cops would tend not to check them, and they wouldn't get time even if they were checked.

and here's the best part of your "source" and the only smoking gun posted here today:
  • A Plea From The Democratic Underground...

    A great website, one on which this great comment was recently posted:

    "Will someone please give Bush a blowjob, so we can impeach him?"

B-u-s-t-e-d!
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:24 PM   #4881
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pretten boys
Sounds like a good Michael Jackson album title.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:26 PM   #4882
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Sounds like a good Michael Jackson album title.
Can it Flower-wanna-be. We don't need newbers here.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:32 PM   #4883
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Especially in Dallas.

Methodists = old money, comparatively accepting of various lifestyles and races
Baptists = not that
Indeed. And as I think of it more, I can't think of a prominant national protestant sect that I'd characterize as more liberal, since Unitarians shouldn't really count. Episcopalians are about the same. Lutherans are in the same range, but I think a bit more conservative. Presbyterians have a less centralized structure, so there may be non-celibate gay ministers there, but it would not be a universal acceptance.
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and here's the best part of your "source" and the only smoking gun posted here today:
  • A Plea From The Democratic Underground...

    A great website, one on which this great comment was recently posted:

    "Will someone please give Bush a blowjob, so we can impeach him?"

B-u-s-t-e-d!
What did I say. "Admittedly radically left wing." Yeah. I was trying to pull one over on you. Good thing you're too smart for me. I'm busted.

I believe the term is:

WHIFF
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But I think okaying the anal probing of a ten-year-old might get a little traction, with the right spin.
He's Catholic?
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:38 PM   #4886
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Um. No. Especially not the rednecks, who think the Methodists are all going to burn in hell. The issue of openly sexually active gay clergy is a hot, hot issue in the church right now, a fact that in itself belies a redneck lable. (If they were truely redneck, there wouldn't be a debate at all). They already allow celebate gay clergy. They're no Universalists, but that's not bad as the christian spectrum goes.
They'll burn in hell because of thier liberal, yankified beliefs. A couple women mud-wrestling with each other never bothered us good ole boys, though, you bigot, you.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:41 PM   #4887
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What did I say. "Admittedly radically left wing." Yeah. I was trying to pull one over on you. Good thing you're too smart for me. I'm busted.

I believe the term is:

WHIFF
What variety of whiff would it be? I must say, I don't believe it was any recognized type whiff, and I would venture to guess that Paigow has not ceded to you the abiltiy to coin new varieties.
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We prefer the term Papist around here.
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