Patting the wrists, rolling the eyes.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I wonder whether the Nixon and the boys had similar conversations about other people they suspected were Deep Throat.

Again, Deep Throat wasn't a public name until the book came out. In the early 70's white house Deep Throat was simply Martha Mitchell's secret service name.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I wonder whether the Nixon and the boys had similar conversations about other people they suspected were Deep Throat.

Ty's probably the expert on this, but I recall hearing tapes at some point with speculation about others as well. I think they used the same "colorful" language -- "he's a jew so it could be him" "he's got italian roots, so it wouldn't surprise me" and so on.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Ty's probably the expert on this, but I recall hearing tapes at some point with speculation about others as well. I think they used the same "colorful" language -- "he's a jew so it could be him" "he's got italian roots, so it wouldn't surprise me" and so on.

So if you work with that person, and they are senior to you, do you call them on that?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So if you work with that person, and they are senior to you, do you call them on that?

mmmm bacon

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
mmmm bacon

mmmmmm sausage egg and cheese biscuit.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Who are you again?

I invented that.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Mark Felt reminds us of the abiding wisdom of the framers of the Constitution, and specifically of their vision of dividing the federal government's powers among the three branches, so that by acting according to its own institutional self-interest, each might tend to curb the worst excesses of the others. Felt worked for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, not Congress or the judiciary, but the principle is the same -- Nixon's abuses of power were not checked by a do-gooder acting out of altruism, but by a government official protecting his own position.

[Hank Chinaski]

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...n-ossetia.html

Article about the trial of the one surviving Beslam school attacker's trial.

Here's what is weird.....

• The 30-year-old former contract laborer from the Chechen village of Engenoi, has been charged under nine articles of the Criminal Code of Russia, including murder, banditry, terrorism, and the taking of hostages. He admits to seven of these, but categorically denies the other two.............
  
  During the investigation, the Chechen admitted to terrorism, banditry, and everything else, but... he did not like it when the investigators also charged him under Article 166 of the Criminal code (Misappropriation of an automobile without intent to steal).
  
  Kulayev, who faces life imprisonment, has acknowledged being one of the guerillas who stormed a school in Beslan on September 1, 2004, seizing more than 1300 hostages.

Life in prison? I thought Russians were the guys who were just cold blooded and killing terrorists. The guy MIGHT get life?

[Hank Chinaski]

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8242

• Deep Throat and Genocide
  By Ben Stein
  Published 6/1/2005 12:22:42 AM
  
  Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.
  
  Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?
  
  Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.
  
  That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying, conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying, conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.
  
  When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:
  
  1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.
  
  2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.
  
  So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.

Of course Ben was part of the Nixon White House.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8242

• Deep Throat and Genocide
  By Ben Stein
  Published 6/1/2005 12:22:42 AM
  
  Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.
  
  Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?
  
  Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.
  
  That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying, conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying, conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.
  
  When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:
  
  1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.
  
  2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.
  
  So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.

Of course Ben was part of the Nixon White House.

Ben Stein is so completely and utterly full of horse, chicken, and bull shit that I am sitting here agog after reading this. What did Nixon do that was so bad? Without doing any research and without much thinking . . .

(1) Overthrowing Salvador Allende's government in Chile. Death of a few US citizens in coup by CIA resources in Chilean army.

(2) Dumping an antitrust suit against ITT in return for a campaign contribution.

(3) Cheating the government out of tax money by back-dating a document (can't remember if this involved the foundation that was to build his library or "Six Crises").

(4) Using the IRS to attack political opponents by ordering audits.

(5) Having the FBI investigate critical newsman Daniel Schorr ("we were doing a background check because we were thinking about appointing him to a high government position").

(6) Ordering a break-in of the office of the shrink of Pentagon Papers leak Daniel Ellsberg in order to find something incriminating on him.

(7) Using the FCC to attack the Washington Post Co. by challenging renewal of TV broadcast licenses.

(8) Payment of money from cash held by his personal lawyer to Watergate burglars in an attempt to keep them quiet.

As for Vietnam, Watergate had nothing to do with the fall of Saigon or Cambodia. Nixon won election in 1968 on a promise to end the war, and he was doing whatever he could to get the US out well before the Cubans broke into the DNC offices. The fall of Nixon did not create the Communist victory -- in fact, some argue that Nixon's invasion of Cambodia in 1970 was the first step of the Khmer Rouge takeover.

[Hank Chinaski]

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Mark Felt reminds us of the abiding wisdom of the framers of the Constitution, and specifically of their vision of dividing the federal government's powers among the three branches, so that by acting according to its own institutional self-interest, each might tend to curb the worst excesses of the others. Felt worked for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, not Congress or the judiciary, but the principle is the same -- Nixon's abuses of power were not checked by a do-gooder acting out of altruism, but by a government official protecting his own position.

Assuming his assessment is right, then wouldn't he properly have "leaked" the information instead to Congress, or someone within it, rather than the press?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ben Stein on Nixon:

That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker.

In case anyone needed a reminder that pretty much everyone who lived in the 70s was stoned pretty much all of the time.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
In case anyone needed a reminder that pretty much everyone who lived in the 70s was stoned pretty much all of the time.

Ben is a funny guy, but 2, I never thought of Nixon as a peacemaker. On the other hand the opening the door to China thing was a big step. and re. non-military issues, My most nazi-like partner read a bio on Nixon and came away hating him since he seemed more liberal than even the Dems now.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Not Bob
As for Vietnam, Watergate had nothing to do with the fall of Saigon or Cambodia. Nixon won election in 1968 on a promise to end the war, and he was doing whatever he could to get the US out well before the Cubans broke into the DNC offices. The fall of Nixon did not create the Communist victory -- in fact, some argue that Nixon's invasion of Cambodia in 1970 was the first step of the Khmer Rouge takeover.

It's hard to argue that Nixon's invasion of Cambodia was NOT the first step in the Khmer Rouge takeover. He destabilized and ultimately helped overthrow a legitimate and popular leader, Sihanouk, and replaced him with Lon Nol, a puppet and military dictator whom the people hated, who did not have the support necessary to fight the Maoist uprising that was already underway.

To suggest that "RN would never have let this happen" is utter horseshit. That Ben Stein could accuse Felt and Woodward of being complicit in Cambodian genocide is truly staggering.

Ben should have spent his life doing cheesy gameshows.