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Old 01-08-2004, 02:29 PM   #4951
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The "dress down and play the simple man" gig does not work, even in the outlying counties. You can have all the law on the planet on your side, but if you're a zero, I'm going to win the judge because I'll make him smile. Of course, the real secret is listening. ... That, and I'm a pompous blowhard, who's mainly correct.
I don't know -- I mean, I'm no litigator, but David Boies wears the cheapest suits imaginable (or at least he used to). When I worked down the hall from him (which was more years ago than I care to remember), rumor was that they were from Sears. I remember a particularly horrid brown polyester one.

He was (is) a pretty successful litigator, too. I guess if the smarts are there in abundance, maybe it really doesn't matter what you're wearing.

I just kept that last bit of what you wrote in there, because it never fails to amuse me.
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Old 01-08-2004, 02:32 PM   #4952
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FOR THE 50TH TIME - I DO NOT HAVE FORESTED ASS.

Ask AdL. He and I go to the same waxing salon. Only I don't get the chest shaving.
Oh, good -- so you can confirm -- is the service provided actually called "back, crack and sack"? (Noting, for the record [Jezis -- what is it with me and the litigator-speak today?!?] that you would not actually require the "crack" portion of such service.)
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6. Do I seem cranky today?
I would have guessed hungover. But what do I know?

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Old 01-08-2004, 02:34 PM   #4954
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Your third sentence is generous.

How helpful.

Agreed, praise all around.

It is all about the size and velocity of the hail. But you already knew that, because you're very smart.

Informative.


Not at all -- you are generous, helpful, full of praise, smart and informative, dear.
Are you in need of spurs, a hat, a lasso and boots? If not, why are you being so goldurn nice?

My question re: the hail is whether for some reason hail would be particularly damaging to a slate roof (e.g., cause as much (or nearly as much) damage to a slate roof as to a composition roof, which would be suckier because slate is way more expensive to repair). Generally, as I'm sure you know because you are brilliant, slate roofs need very little repair and almost never need to be replaced -- this, along with general attractiveness, can help justify the expense. However, I have only dealt with slate roofs in areas that did not experience much hail. If they are particularly susceptible to hail damage, one would not want to put a slate roof on a house in hail-land. Any information not involving the velocity of sparrows would be appreciated.

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Old 01-08-2004, 02:36 PM   #4955
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If you have time, know the story backwards and forwards. Plus details. The more details the better (as long as they don't conflict). Mention something someone (who the lie-ee doesn't know) said and quote them "verbatim". Be VERY specific as to location/make of car/time of day/etc.
Agreed that it helps to have completely plausible background details, but I find it useful to hold some things in reserve, for any questions. A liar who talks too much when telling a story and give excessive detail calls too much attention to it.

The trick is to be an obsessive student of how people tell real, true stories. They generally expect to be interrupted and not to blather on. Blatherers are often lying.

Other practical advice is (1) keep your hands at your sides or in your pockets at all times. Touching your mouth, nose, ears, or eye may or may not be a real "tell," but enough people think it is that it's wise not to touch one's face. Also, avoid reflexively massaging the back of your neck. (2) Don't fill silences. It makes it sound like you're desperate, and you'll go on and on.
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I would have guessed hungover. But what do I know?

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Stop projecting. I am NOT hung over. Any alcohol I consumed last night was offset by sleep. I did get stood up for lunch, though. And the board is a 9th-grade locker room.

I'm also consumed by the worry that what with my butterface, buttertits and butterbody, I will melt come summer.
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Old 01-08-2004, 02:39 PM   #4957
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Are you in need of spurs, a hat, a lasso and boots? If not, why are you being so goldurn nice?

My question re: the hail is whether for some reason hail would be particularly damaging to a slate roof (e.g., cause as much (or nearly as much) damage to a slate roof as to a composition roof, which would be suckier because slate is way more expensive to repair). Generally, as I'm sure you know because you are brilliant, slate roofs need very little repair and almost never need to be replaced -- this, along with general attractiveness, can help justify the expense. However, I have only dealt with slate roofs in areas that did not experience much hail. If they are particularly susceptible to hail damage, one would not want to put a slate roof on a house in hail-land. Any information not involving the velocity of sparrows would be appreciated.

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Why thank you. Kisses to you to.

It's the end of the year. This is the time of year I am always nice.

Slate roofs can chip when hit by anything flying -- branches, hail, birds, etc. Or when pulled apart by ivy growing over them (don't ask). But they can take some chipping, especially if the slate is thick. Look at some old slate roofs and you will see little corners missing, pieces gone from the top, etc. Repair is pretty easy, but does need to be done periodically. Just like bricks must be repointed.
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Other practical advice is (1) keep your hands at your sides or in your pockets at all times. Touching your mouth, nose, ears, or eye may or may not be a real "tell," but enough people think it is that it's wise not to touch one's face. Also, avoid reflexively massaging the back of your neck. (2) Don't fill silences. It makes it sound like you're desperate, and you'll go on and on.
I don't know about (1) -- but it sounds good, but can offer solid anectodal evidence as to the efficacy of (2). If I'm telling a lie, I just state it, and say nothing more.** If the silence gets overly long, I just shrug my shoulders and walk away, or look back at the newspaper/do whatever I was doing prior to the lie-telling.


**Kind of like the negotiating aphorism: When a point is being negotiated, once the offer is "out there," the next person to speak will lose.
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I'm also consumed by the worry that what with my butterface, buttertits and butterbody, I will melt come summer.



Ehhxcellent. Ehxxxcellent.
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I don't know -- I mean, I'm no litigator, but David Boies wears the cheapest suits imaginable (or at least he used to). When I worked down the hall from him (which was more years ago than I care to remember), rumor was that they were from Sears. I remember a particularly horrid brown polyester one.

He was (is) a pretty successful litigator, too. I guess if the smarts are there in abundance, maybe it really doesn't matter what you're wearing.

I just kept that last bit of what you wrote in there, because it never fails to amuse me.
When I had my callback at Milbank, I was told by a litigator partner who seemed to like me that my expensive suit might not be ideal for interviewing bc it could convey the impression that I do not have to work or that I am not as willing to work as hard as (that prole fighting her way out of the trailer park.). For real.

And I left that suit on an airplane in the hanging closet. My boyfriend said "thank god" bc it was the most unflattering looking thing (read sexless) ever. I cant remmeber who made it
 
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The trick is to be an obsessive student of how people tell real, true stories. They generally expect to be interrupted and not to blather on. Blatherers are often lying.

(2) Don't fill silences. It makes it sound like you're desperate, and you'll go on and on.
So if Sebby's lips are moving, he's lying?
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Ehhxcellent. Ehxxxcellent.
He should take a vacation to the tropics and not wait for summer to melt.
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useless piece of trivia interesting only to me

or, in other words, The NFH of the Day!!!

Apparently Bill Ripken's rookie card said "Fuck Face" on it (it was printed in magic marker on the bat he was holding). Here's a page about it -- http://www.homeruncards.com/rookieca...ror-card.shtml

People thought it would turn into a collector's item and started driving the price up, but turns out too many were printed that way and it's only worth $5.**


** this NFH of the Day basically ripped off from Odd Todd's website. but it's ok to steal it if I tell you all that I am doing so, right? carry on.
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Old 01-08-2004, 02:48 PM   #4964
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I think it would be good to start doing all the "lying" things when you are telling the truth. Then those things will no longer be associated with lying. People will think you are a freak and a half, but they won't know whether you are lying or telling the truth and that's really what's important here, isn't it?
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And the board is a 9th-grade locker room.
I was considering creating a locker room sock. A sock that would exhibit all the worst features of locker room behavior. I thought it might annoy the boys into stopping.

But I am too lazy to sock, and they seem to have stopped. Why doesn't someone else run with this idea if needed?
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