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Old 05-08-2003, 11:12 AM   #5026
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I tried to watch this last night but could not bear the ceaseless commercial breaks and the bullshit manufactured suspense. Since y'all are such fans of the singers and actually look forward to the music, doesn't that crap make you want to reach through the TV and strangle Ryan Seacrest?

This nonsuspense (plus the constant use of such phrases as "the bond between him/her and I," "the bond between s/he and I," and "the bond between s/he and myself") also takes the bachelor/ette series over the line from amusingly stupid to unbearable. Oh, those tense moments while we look from one bachelor/ette to another, wondering which one will get the remaining rose. My heart can't take it!

Is anybody else totally fucking tired of "cliffhangers"? Damn that J.R.
I was out drinking last night unti l850 and came home just to catch the end of the show. Perfect. Except I missed the BG medley which sounds like it was not to be missed. As for Ryan Seacrest, he is the television equivalent of a short motherjumpin hugester carrying a gucci umbrella while cracking gum. He needs to go back to his career as a Universal Studios tour guide.

As for Bachelor, I watched it again last night (missed the second date). The problem with this show is that each bachelor is told to talk like they are seriously considering marrying one of these broads, when history and incompatibility tells us there is not a fucking chance. Like I am supposed to believe that Andrew thinks either of these not quite pretty (bad nose job on kirsten and something is just wrong with Jen's face) gals with probably not too impressive education/career/background/whatever is "Mrs. Firestone" material. Especially when he bangs all three of them? It was a novelty the first time around and it works for the Bachelorette bc you would believe that the gal wants to wed one of the guys (assuming its a vice versa stich like with Ryan). But it is not believable on the Bachelor and it is an insult to my intelligence that they are trying to bring that off. I would like it better if the bachelor just spoke in terms of dating. More believable.

at least tina classy is being shipped back to wisconsin where she belongs. the most fabulous fish in a teeny tenny pond. This gal seems to think she is the fifth gal on Sex and the City but what she doesnt get is that there is no Sex and the Great Lakes.

And yes tina being barefoot and preganant on your own vineyard with your heir husband would be fabulous.
 
Old 05-08-2003, 11:15 AM   #5027
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Agreed. That's why I said, "One of the main reasons why the trial was so huge was because a black man killed an attractive white woman."
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Don't selectively quote. You also said, as if it was a direct contrast, "You don't see big publicity when black women get killed." (or something to that effect)
No, dumbass. I said, "When the verdict came down, white people were weeping in the fucking streets for Christsakes. Do these same people even pay attention when a black woman is murdered and someone gets away with it?"

I wasn't talking about publicity or how huge the trial was throughout the whole post. The theme of the post was how OJ wasn't the only one to make the case about race, not why the case was so huge.

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Old 05-08-2003, 11:24 AM   #5028
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What the flying fuck are you talking about?
Your last few lunatic posts.

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Old 05-08-2003, 11:30 AM   #5029
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Is anyone planning to watch either of these? At first I was horrified at the thought of American Juniors, but then I realized that the first episodes, where they show the tryouts, will have to be hilarious given how insane stage moms are, so I will tivo them. Of course, after watching the first episodes, if I'm not completely bored I will probably fall in love with one of the stupid little snots and be forced to watch the rest of the season.

As for the dog pageant thing, I will do what I did with The Family. That means I will record it, but somebody here has to watch it first and tell me if it's worth seeing before I actually commit to watching it. I'm counting on you people, don't let me down.
Having watched a show recently on little-girl beauty pageants, where the once-pretty moms had all gorged themselves senseless (and enormous) on Snackwells and were now living their lives vicariously through their daughters as they seemed to have utterly given up on their own, I can't watch anything involving stage parents. And I always worry child stars will end up like the Diffrent Strokes kids. But we might see the next Justin or Britney or XTina...

I saw the promo for the dog show last night. Seeing some truly elegant breeds dressed up like idiots in Barbie fantasy outfits almost killed me (though I'd expect if of those useless toy dogs).
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:35 AM   #5030
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Seeing some truly elegant breeds dressed up like idiots in Barbie fantasy outfits
Sounds like the perfect show for our own feline and canine posters . . .
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:36 AM   #5031
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Sounds like the perfect show for our own feline and canine posters . . .
Sounds like animal abuse...
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:40 AM   #5032
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Sounds like animal abuse...
With your avatar, you dare to speak about animals in awful grooming scenarios???
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:41 AM   #5033
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With your avatar, you dare to speak about animals in awful grooming scenarios???
Hey, I didn't shave the pussy.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:42 AM   #5034
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With your avatar, you dare to speak about animals in awful grooming scenarios???
I think it's admirable that she champions the cause of cats with mange. They are, truly, the forgotten skin-diseased pet.
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I think it's admirable that she champions the cause of cats with mange. They are, truly, the forgotten skin-diseased pet.
Thank you.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:48 AM   #5036
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With your avatar, you dare to speak about animals in awful grooming scenarios???
Well, you can see the kitty looks extremely pissed off. I have never seen a dog look happy to be wearing Christmas reindeer antlers or a cat seem pleased to be dressed up like a bride or groom for its owner-inspired 'wedding.'

And while we're at it, people who groom poodles of any size into those ridiculous topiary monstrosities should be shot. Or have their heads shaved indentically. Then shot.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:50 AM   #5037
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Hooray!!!!! Josh the constipated Marine goes home. Won't miss him a bit.

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Man, was this waaay overdue. I agree that based on the performances, both Kim and Josh deserved bottom two. Since Kim has shown flashes of brilliance, she deserved to stay and at least live to compete another day. I'm glad it did not happen as I had feared it might, but I think FOX doesn't want to see no girls in the finals, either. That said, I think the best two -- Ruben and whoever-- will be left.

With regard to the possibility of two black finalists, as someone brought up, what's the big deal? We live in the 21st century, and if you're good, you deserve to be there, period. I think, or would hope anyway, that most people recognize this. If someone thinks the dorky white guy deserves to be there based on talent, then he does. Ruben will win. Mark my words. He deserves to.

A short comment about Josh's swan song. When he brought his cute little baby on stage, all that was missing was him wrapping himself in the flag. He far exceeded his shelf life in the competition for the very reason that he was a marine, a "good guy" and a loving husband and daddy.

I couldn't help but say to my wife when Josh started singing to his little girl and she started bawling, "see, Josh, your daughter, like the rest of America that is not tone-deaf, thinks you suck, too -- now go home." That was easily the most funny moment of last night's show.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:56 AM   #5038
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Of course, you can have well behaved children or adults who don't give a shit about anything or anyone, but I doubt this actually occurs in nature too often.
How would you know? You have no basis for judging what anyone else gives a damn about other than by their behavior.

"Good" behavior doesn't occur in nature EVER - it is a social construct, not a natural one, and it can be learned only through social interaction with others, who reinforce "good" behavior and penalize "bad." A natural inclination to respect others (if it exists at all) doesn't somehow program you to express thanks for favors, or cause you to sit still and not yell at the opera. The dirty looks & other punishment you get when you screw up does that. And even someone who doesn't care about you can want to avoid your censure, understanding that it is advantageous to do so. That is why sociopaths are often well mannered and charming: the disjunction between how they feel and how they know they are expected to act is great enough that they don't confuse their interior life and their expressions & behaviors to others.

I am actually of the opinion that forced conformity to social behavior expectations leads more often to actual feelings consideration and respect for other people than the other way around. But I always thought the noble savage thing was crap. I think that just reflects a fundamental disagreement we have about human nature, though.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:58 AM   #5039
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Sounds like animal abuse...
I said the exact same thing. The only reason I would watch this dreck is to see if one of the animals does the right and natural thing and attacks their handler for being such a publicity-seeking dumbass.

Edited to add: If there's any justice in this world, the wannabe child stars on American Juniors will do the same to their stage-parents.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:59 AM   #5040
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And while we're at it, people who groom poodles of any size into those ridiculous topiary monstrosities should be shot. Or have their heads shaved indentically. Then shot.
Unless you want to shave your poodle yourself, it is sometimes very difficult to find a groomer that will not shave those hideous pompoms onto your poodle. When I was a kid and we had a standard poodle (my mom's allergic to dog hair so it was either a poodle or another wooly dog like a puli, and they were hard to find then) we let her get shaggy all winter, but come summer she got so hot we had to get her trimmed. Some groomers fear their reputation will go down if they don't give you that ridiculous look and will refuse to do it otherwise (I'm not kidding). Eventually we found one that didn't care, but until we did, our poor puppy either roasted or looked silly.

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