Meet your new thread, same as the old thread.

[LessinSF]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...a111654D33.DTL - interesting article re the growth of atheist books. Harris' followup to End of Faith - A Letter to a Christian Nation is mentioned, and I endorse it heartily. He has condensed his arguments down to a much more biting and irrefutable 90-something small pages.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by LessinSF
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...a111654D33.DTL - interesting article re the growth of atheist books. Harris' followup to End of Faith - A Letter to a Christian Nation is mentioned, and I endorse it heartily. He has condensed his arguments down to a much more biting and irrefutable 90-something small pages.

Read the Hitchens' thing. It's really funny.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Read the Hitchens' thing. It's really funny.

I've offered a trade with a friend, but the point is that it is no longer funny

[Hank Chinaski]

http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/

Parking lot to hear Al Gore speak in Marin County.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/

Parking lot to hear Al Gore speak in Marin County.

I bought a voucher, and I drive an SUV. I run my air conditioning a lot, but I use Green Mountain Energy.

I suppose I'm still a bad person and a hypocrite.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/

Parking lot to hear Al Gore speak in Marin County.

I take it you believe the federal government should be doing more to enable places like Marin County to obtain mass transit.

[Apropos of Nothing]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/

Parking lot to hear Al Gore speak in Marin County.


http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/IMG_3277.JPG

Not for nothing, but it looks like only one real SUV to me, with two small ones (maybe even an Escape hybrid) and a minivan.

We are all hypocrites, Hank. I don't follow the teachings of Jesus on giving all of my money to the poor in order to follow him. My 25 year old pro-war ("this is the most important fight for our country's survival since the War of 1812 -- that was the last time we were attacked like this") cousin has no intentions of joining the Army. My friend the would-be state elected official panders shamelessly to anyone who will write her a check for the maximum legal contribution, including some developer that she called "pond scum" six months ago. The same conservative groups last year who argued that senate rules on filibusters were unconstitutional are about to change their tune when the vote of no confidence for Gonzalez comes up in the senate in a few weeks. I think that the government should spend more on social services, but try to minimize my taxes by taking every deduction and credit that I can. Your point?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I bought a voucher, and I drive an SUV. I run my air conditioning a lot, but I use Green Mountain Energy.

I suppose I'm still a bad person and a hypocrite.

you're not bad. I drive an SUV (it will be my last one) too.

But you are lying to yourself. Al is saying we have to REDUCE emissions, not just stop increasing. As long as buying vouchers is done to allow continued massive pollution we can only hope the global warming crowd is wrong.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I take it you believe the federal government should be doing more to enable places like Marin County to obtain mass transit.

the onliest place you need an SUV is if you're driving on the veldt.

[SlaveNoMore]

Apropos of Nothing
I don't follow the teachings of Jesus on giving all of my money to the poor in order to follow him. My 25 year old pro-war ("this is the most important fight for our country's survival since the War of 1812 -- that was the last time we were attacked like this") cousin has no intentions of joining the Army.

Um, how is being pro-war and not joining the Army being a hypocrite?

I hear this all the time from assholes on the Left, but it's fucking idiotic.

I'm pro-medicine - doesn't mean i'm going to med school.

I'm pro-electricity - doesn't mean I'm signing up to work on a cherry picker fixing lines.

I'm pro-food - doesn't mean I'm farming anytime soon.

By your logic, I guess I'm a hypocrite because I pay my taxes timely, even though I'm against paying them at all.

[SlaveNoMore]

Replaced_Texan
I bought a voucher, and I drive an SUV. I run my air conditioning a lot, but I use Green Mountain Energy.

I suppose I'm still a bad person and a hypocrite.

I don't drive an SUV, nor do we have A/C in our home. So to do my part, I'm killing trees.


http://www.carboncreditkillers.com/default.asp

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Um, how is being pro-war and not joining the Army being a hypocrite?

I hear this all the time from assholes on the Left, but it's fucking idiotic.

I'm pro-medicine - doesn't mean i'm going to med school.

I'm pro-electricity - doesn't mean I'm signing up to work on a cherry picker fixing lines.

I'm pro-food - doesn't mean I'm farming anytime soon.

By your logic, I guess I'm a hypocrite because I pay my taxes timely, even though I'm against paying them at all.

Are you kidding? If like the sock's cousin, you think that the Iraq war is so important to the survival of our civilization, and you are of military age and otherwise eligible to serve, how can you say that? Even Pete Fucking Seeger joined the Army in WWII.

At any rate, the point was that supporting efforts to fight global warming while not living Ed Begley's lifestyle wasn't any more hypocritical than a series of other examples. Sensitive much?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Are you kidding? If like the sock's cousin, you think that the Iraq war is so important to the survival of our civilization, and you are of military age and otherwise eligible to serve, how can you say that? Even Pete Fucking Seeger joined the Army in WWII.

At any rate, the point was that supporting efforts to fight global warming while not living Ed Begley's lifestyle wasn't any more hypocritical than a series of other examples. Sensitive much?

ummmm, one teeny little diff, thinking the Iraq war is "a good idea" is not the same as saying "if we don't wipe out Iraq within the next 10 years then the world is toast." I don't think too many people think/thought the Iraq war was immediately necessary to continuing human population of earth.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
As long as buying vouchers is done to allow continued massive pollution we can only hope the global warming crowd is wrong.

Why? Vouchers will become more expensive as demand increases. If you're concerned about any kind of market-based system locking in a certain pollution level, it's quite easy to reduce the value of each pollution credit/right by a certain percentage each year.

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Bob
Are you kidding? If like the sock's cousin, you think that the Iraq war is so important to the survival of our civilization, and you are of military age and otherwise eligible to serve, how can you say that? Even Pete Fucking Seeger joined the Army in WWII.

At any rate, the point was that supporting efforts to fight global warming while not living Ed Begley's lifestyle wasn't any more hypocritical than a series of other examples. Sensitive much?

Bully for Pete Seeger. Probably the only steady job he's had.

This is just moronic, typical claptrap that you Lefties like to throw around as if its some sort of profound "Gotcha!".

Guess what - it isn't. But, then again, you know this.