Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Adder I an amazed you really think you can kill faster than you create them.

You guys are always telling us that man just needs to be conditioned by his tools, right?

(Pick up on this. Please. It's too easy not to.)

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
No, that would have been the Afghanistan invasion which half your camp likes to remember or forget, depending on the context

Believe me, we haven't forgotten how the admin did a half-assed job in Afghanistan in order to free up troops for Iraq. Tell me, how are things in Afghanistan? Last time Karzai was in the US, he said he didn't want to return home.

[Adder]

Originally posted by bilmore
What do you think "neocon" means?

ETA - It's a conservative viewpoint that accepts the role, and the morality, of Israel, as a good thing.

ETA again - ther's my flight.

That may be how you define it but others might throw in something about conversion from liberalism and advocacy of a strong defense and a foreign policy bases and strength.

And when, exactly, did I become not a believer in the "role, and the morality, of Isreal, as a good thing?"

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Adder
. . . . but others might throw in something about conversion from liberalism and advocacy of a strong defense and a foreign policy bases and strength.

Damn, you make it sound so bad!

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Adder
And when, exactly, did I become not a believer in the "role, and the morality, of Isreal, as a good thing?"

(This is cool - I'm now blogging from first class, with a really good glass of wine. Wireless is great!)

I guess tonight, but that's based on you just reappearing. Was it earlier?

[Adder]

Originally posted by bilmore
(This is cool - I'm now blogging from first class, with a really good glass of wine. Wireless is great!)

I guess tonight, but that's based on you just reappearing. Was it earlier?

Btw... what exactly is the moral role of Israel?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Bush & Allawi:



You may fire when ready, Gridley.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bush & Allawi:



You may fire when ready, Gridley.

I thought Lockhart said the hand was up his Allawi's shirt. Was that later?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Norm Podhoretz is one of the most important conservative thinkers of our era. Merely lumping him onto the "neo-con" pile is ignorant, to say the least.

Being a leader does not make him not a member. And you qualified "thinkers" substantially, didn't you?

But at least we could ask him to be honest. In Bilmore's article, his description of the Clinton administration's reaction to the first trade center bombing is affirmatively false. He says that the Clinton administration ignored experts who said that a network based in Sudan was behind the attacks. Which, of course, is why they bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan and why the administration insisted that there was a super-terrorist out there named Osama bin Laden while the rest of the world thought they must be on crack (including me, btw).

I also like how he quotes Dick Morris as credible, and how he pretends that all terrorist attacks by islamic groups over the last decade are both connected and the inevitable conclusions of our failure to act. It is good writing, to be sure, but it belongs in a novel.

And, btw, if we were doing nothing, why did bin Laden leave Sudan?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bush & Allawi:



You may fire when ready, Gridley.

Kerry says that you are a puppet and that you are going to need some hand holding if we are to succeed in the war on terrorism. Let's show him some real hand holding.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Adder
Being a leader does not make him not a member. And you qualified "thinkers" substantially, didn't you?

Well saying liberal thinker would have been an oxymoron.

[Adder]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Kerry says that you are a puppet and that you are going to need some hand holding if we are to succeed in the war on terrorism. Let's show him some real hand holding.

Dude. You actually took the time to write and post that? It's not even funny. Not even in a right-winger sense.

[sgtclub]

I have said many times that I think this will be a close race (absent a complete drubbing this Thursday). But I do think that Bush will win, and I'm happy about this for many reasons, one of which is that we won't have to hear from the frenchman again for a while (or at least until 2006, if he pulls an Al Gore).

I'm sure, however, that the left will have innumerable excuses for the lost (e.g., the swiftvets, Florida, Kerry didn't go negative enough, etc.). So I'd like you people to go on the record with your excusses now, so that we won't have backfill later. If Kerry should lose, what are the excuses?

efs

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Adder
Dude. You actually took the time to write and post that? It's not even funny. Not even in a right-winger sense.

Dude, how else do you think you get to 2400 posts?