Waiting for Fitzgerald

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Spanky
Ye of little faith.

It is a two party system. Three partys ain't never going to work. If you don't fit into either party your only choice is to try and make the party fit you.

I think the part I'm kind of maybe sort of getting at is that it's important to figure out which party you are more likely to be able to get your goals accomplished through.

What an awkward sentence.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Spanky
Yes - but I can outlast them. My great great grandfather was a Republican delegate from California at the 1876 GOP convention. I ain't going no where. Tenacity and persistencr beats passion every time (although it may take a while).

Be careful, or Pat Robertson will be on the 700 Club praying for God to take you home.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think the part I'm kind of maybe sort of getting at is that it's important to figure out which party you are more likely to be able to get your goals accomplished through.

You still don't understand the 2nd Amendment.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Spanky
Yes - but I can outlast them. My great great grandfather was a Republican delegate from California at the 1876 GOP convention. I ain't going no where. Tenacity and persistencr beats passion every time (although it may take a while).

So changing one party is more important to you than the policies you want?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
You still don't understand the 2nd Amendment.

Are you advocating a more proactive approach to taking back the party?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So changing one party is more important to you than the policies you want?

No - but the Democrat party is farther from me than the Republican party. So my best chance is with the Republican party. When it comes to foreign policy I am a neo-conservative. I am a fiscal conservative and pro-free trade. I tend to be more extremem than many Republicans on these issues. On the other hand I am liberal on the social issues.

I may I have trouble in the Republican party but I am no where near the Dems.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Are you advocating a more proactive approach to taking back the party?

Clinton told me that the ends justify the means.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
No - but the Democrat party is farther from me than the Republican party. So my best chance is with the Republican party. When it comes to foreign policy I am a neo-conservative. I am a fiscal conservative and pro-free trade. I tend to be more extremem than many Republicans on these issues. On the other hand I am liberal on the social issues.

I may I have trouble in the Republican party but I am no where near the Dems.

Translation: I am not a socialist. Or an appeaser.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Spanky
No - but the Democrat party is farther from me than the Republican party. So my best chance is with the Republican party. When it comes to foreign policy I am a neo-conservative. I am a fiscal conservative and pro-free trade. I tend to be more extremem than many Republicans on these issues. On the other hand I am liberal on the social issues.

I may I have trouble in the Republican party but I am no where near the Dems.

If you look at the legislation proposed and supported by Ds vs Rs in the last few years, do you really believe that the Rs are, on the whole, closer to where you are? I kind of think you are going with your conception of what Ds are (which is reinforced in your mind by paying more attention to what far-left D loonies say than what the general mass of Ds actually do -- on the federal level) versus your conception of what Rs are (and are similarly paying more attn to some Rs who at least preach fiscal conservatism) and not paying attention to what groups are actually doing.

Of course, part of the reason the Ds are far more centrist now is because of pressure from Rs, but your statements about what Rs stand for is just so far from what is happening that it is ludicrous. They are not the party of free trade and fiscal conservatism in action.

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Clinton told me that the ends justify the means.

Mao told us that power emanates from the barrel of a gun.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If you look at the legislation proposed and supported by Ds vs Rs in the last few years, do you really believe that the Rs are, on the whole, closer to where you are? I kind of think you are going with your conception of what Ds are (which is reinforced in your mind by paying more attention to what far-left D loonies say than what the general mass of Ds actually do -- on the federal level) versus your conception of what Rs are (and are similarly paying more attn to some Rs who at least preach fiscal conservatism) and not paying attention to what groups are actually doing.

Of course, part of the reason the Ds are far more centrist now is because of pressure from Rs, but your statements about what Rs stand for is just so far from what is happening that it is ludicrous. They are not the party of free trade and fiscal conservatism in action.

I like the President's policies on Trade (CAFTA etc.) and foreign policy. Fiscally not so much and on social policy not so much. But the Dems are worse than the Repubs on fiscal policy.

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Originally posted by Spanky
the Dems are worse than the Repubs on fiscal policy.

I really don't see this.

I guess I think it works better if there are different parties in Congress and the White House. Or if there are different parties in the House and the Senate. I don't think I would want all three branches controlled by the Ds.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Clinton told me that the ends justify the means.

Clinton is no longer president. AT BEST THIS WOULD BE PROPER for the NEW york board, Fringey- am I on permanet not ignore now?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Spanky
But the Dems are worse than the Repubs on fiscal policy.

Squeeze me? Go back and read the first post on this topic (which came from you), then consider Don Young's response to suggestions he give up the Bridge to Nowhere, add in the energy bill and transportation bill this year and the last few year's appropriation bills and tell us again the Dems are worse on fiscal policy?? You may not like the California brand of Dem, but nationally there's no comparison.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Clinton is no longer president. AT BEST THIS WOULD BE PROPER for the NEW york board, Fringey- am I on permanet not ignore now?

I have nothing to do with this. Leave me the hell out of it.