New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I thought the 2-button jacket was a 30-year fad started by JKF and that 3-button was the norm?

That's what I always thought as well.

I personally never did the 3 button gig because the jackets dont' move as easily when unbuttoned, kinda like a double breasted jacket (not that I've ever ownd a db suit).

As to pleats, I like Hickeys because they fit me well, and they always come pleated. I wish they weren't, because I can't fill out the back of my pants. Its terrible to be assless in today's "roomy fit" world. The goddamn people at JCrew don't even carry slim fit pants anymore. If I wear relaxed fit pants, I look like some dumb white suburban kid tring to look like G.

S(Paigs... where can I get ass implants?)D

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
How much larger should trouser waist size be than FB Man waist size?

Actual waist measurement v. actual trouser waistband measurement?

At least one inch. Give it a bit more if you are measuring yourself in the morning (one's middle usually hangs out more as the day goes on, and that's what additional belt-holes are for). Measure around your navel.

And stop sucking in your gut like you've got a Hoover in there. I know you don't walk around like that.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb

What's a bindle? Is that used in bukkake?

Bukkake as I understand it is a group of men standing around jerking off on a woman. I am sure there are variations. You'll usually find it accompanied by a "Cleveland Steamer" and a "Hot Lunch".

A bindle is a piece of plastic or cloth into which something is placed. The cloth or plastic is then tied at the top like a garbage bag.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bukkake as I understand it is a group of men standing around jerking off on a woman. I am sure there are variations. You'll usually find it accompanied by a "Cleveland Steamer" and a "Hot Lunch".

A bindle is a piece of plastic or cloth into which something is placed. The cloth or plastic is then tied at the top like a garbage bag.

I do not understand why a Cleveland Steamer would "usually" be involved as it is my understanding this involves taking a crap on someone and while getting semen all over someone is a pretty routine sexual practice, shitting on someone is not.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bukkake as I understand it is a group of men standing around jerking off on a woman. I am sure there are variations. You'll usually find it accompanied by a "Cleveland Steamer" and a "Hot Lunch".

Whoever described the "Chili Dog" to me has permanently ruined my appetite for actual chili dogs...

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I do not understand why a Cleveland Steamer would "usually" be involved as it is my understanding this involves taking a crap on someone and while getting semen all over someone is a pretty routine sexual practice, shitting on someone is not.

Speak for yourself. It does wonders for the laugh lines.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I personally never did the 3 button gig because the jackets dont' move as easily when unbuttoned, kinda like a double breasted jacket (not that I've ever ownd a db suit).

I always thought the opposite. The higher closing alows for a better (read: closer to the body) fit, so they actually hang better open - they give you a nice, even (sliming) column of opening down the front, instead of a saggy-pointing one as you get with jackets that button low.

But double breasted jackets should usually not be worn open at all.

The rat-pack suits are very like the current "hipster" ones, in that they are very narrow in cut, shoulder, lapel and leg. Those aren't the '50s suits NB was referring to - he was referring to real suits of the 50s, which were a bit more relaxed in sillouette. They make those, too, still.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
A bindle is a piece of plastic or cloth into which something is placed. The cloth or plastic is then tied at the top like a garbage bag.

Huh. I have always called the rectangular envelope that holds coke a bindle. It is created by folding a piece of paper and tucking the flap in, however, not what you describe.

[AngryMulletMan]

One of my pet peeves is seeing guys trying to wear pants two or three sizes too small by pushing them down below the front-loader they're hauling around. If you're a fat, you're a fat and wearing the same size pants you wore in high school is not going to change it any more than a comb over is going to hide the fact that you're really bald. Here's the best advice I've seen regarding pleats versus no pleats:

Is it appropriate for a man a little wide in the waist to wear pants without pleats?

Dear Victim,
Absolutely. As a matter of fact, thick-waisted and pear-shaped men should consider gravitating toward unpleated pants as a rule. Pleats, meant to lie flat, tend to fill up with whatever excess there happens to be. This can lead to a fluted effect; like an upside-down champagne glass. Pants without pleats don't have that tendency, so the fit of them appears neater.
Whichever your option, assure a correct fit by sizing the trousers to your waist measurement, rather than your hip size. Whether pleated or flat-fronted, trousers ought to be worn at the waist, just below your navel, and occasionally about your ankles.

http://www.instinctmag.com/issues/010298/article3.htm

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I do not understand why a Cleveland Steamer would "usually" be involved as it is my understanding this involves taking a crap on someone and while getting semen all over someone is a pretty routine sexual practice, shitting on someone is not.

Actually, I think the Cleveland Steamer is a having someone put cellophane over their face and having someone take a dump on the cellophane. I believe the Hot Lunch involves shitting on someone's chest.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Huh. I have always called the rectangular envelope that holds coke a bindle. It is created by folding a piece of paper and tucking the flap in, however, not what you describe.

I looked in the dictionary and all it came up with is bindle stiff.

Main Entry: bin·dle stiff
Pronunciation: 'bin-d&l-"stif
Function: noun
Etymology: bindle, perhaps alteration of bundle
Date: 1901
: HOBO; especially : one who carries his clothes or bedding in a bundle

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Huh. I have always called the rectangular envelope that holds coke a bindle. It is created by folding a piece of paper and tucking the flap in, however, not what you describe.

No, that's an envelope. But I could be wrong. Let me ask my boss.

I'm pretty sure a bindle is one of those little mini-bundles in which heroin is usually kept. I'm sure there are all sorts of bastardizations flying around.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Actually, I think the Cleveland Steamer is a having someone put cellophane over their face and having someone take a dump on the cellophane.

I can see why you needed to distinguish this from my characterization of "taking a crap on someone."

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Bob
Speaking of silly, thankfully I have yet to see a lawyer in one of

His are more like 5 or 6-button.

I have two 4-button Hugo Boss suits that I wear all the time.

[AngryMulletMan]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Huh. I have always called the rectangular envelope that holds coke a bindle. It is created by folding a piece of paper and tucking the flap in, however, not what you describe.

Except in San Diego, where they apparently favor glassine envelopes. At least those with appellate lawyers.