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06-04-2003, 03:15 PM
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Grating Accents
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Originally posted by NotFromHere And it's pop dammit - soda's the crap you put in your scotch.
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It's Coke. Get it right.
-T(off caffeine, but really could go for a Coke right now - maybe a Dr. Pepper)L
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06-04-2003, 03:21 PM
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#8282
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
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Out of (the) Pocket
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Since I only ever hear it used by a particular kind of male lawyer, I always assumed it was meant in the football sense; i.e., away from the office and therefore the protection of the blockers. No idea why the definite article gets dropped, though. Probably a confusion with the expense meaning of "out of pocket."
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I'm guilty of using this expression to mean "out of the office," and will henceforth stop. I could defend it thusly though: If I'm out of pocket during normal work hours, it probably means I'm over at Commerce playing 6-12 holdem, which means I'm likely to be out of pocket about $200-$400 if I don't hit my flops, make some good laydowns and catch that boat coming down the river. Or else I'm over at Griffith Park playing the Wilson or Harding courses, which means I'm out of pocket $21, + $11 more if I rent a cart.
Unrelated Sports Guy Note: The Sports Guy reports today that the last 9 NBA Finals have been won by a team with Robert Horry or Steve Kerr on the roster. Go Spurs. (TSG is picking the Nets though, mostly because he thinks Kidd is liable to play better than Tim Duncan, Duncan can get sketchy at the free throw line and when he does that, his whole game goes south, and K-Mart is the "most likely to step up and be the decisive factor" if the 2 studs cancel each other out).
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06-04-2003, 03:23 PM
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#8283
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
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Out of (the) Pocket + Ottawa accent
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
And a question. Why do Americans call a ladies' wallet a pocketbook? It's not a book. And women don't carry their wallets in their pockets.
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I'm confused. In my experience, Americans say pocketbook when they mean handbag, not when they mean ladies' wallet, as in the womens' equivalent to a billfold, that is, the thing in which you stash your driver's license and currency.
But I am from the much maligned Long Island, so take it for what it's worth.
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06-04-2003, 03:24 PM
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#8284
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Accentuate the Negative
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Originally posted by SEC_Chick
While non-accent-related improper pronoun usage bothers me most, warsh/worsh bugs the hell out of me and people who say it also usually store their clothing in the chester drawers and hang their stockings by the chimley on Christmas Eve.
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But if they're hanging their stockings by the chimbley and eating roast beast, then they've been reading to much Dr. Suess.
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06-04-2003, 03:24 PM
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Out of (the) Pocket
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Since I only ever hear it used by a particular kind of male lawyer, I always assumed it was meant in the football sense; i.e., away from the office and therefore the protection of the blockers. No idea why the definite article gets dropped, though. Probably a confusion with the expense meaning of "out of pocket."
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I always thought it was related to "having someone in your pocket": i.e.: having someone in your control, such as a bought politician. So someone out of your control (in this case, unreachable to be made to comment or sign) is "out of pocket."
Football analogy makes sense, too, but I hear this used by men and women both.
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06-04-2003, 03:25 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: A pool of my own vomit
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Accentuate the Negative
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
How about supposebly?
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I actually use that one, but in an intentionally humorous way. Like strategery or irregardless. Supposably is a Joey from Friends thing.
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06-04-2003, 03:25 PM
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I didn't do it.
Join Date: Mar 2003
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They are actually holding a news conference on the Stewart indictment. You can watch it live on MSNBC if you are so inclined.
Since when did we start holding press conferences every time someone famous (or involved with a famous case) gets indicted or arrested? Did that start with OJ or was it common before?
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06-04-2003, 03:27 PM
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#8288
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Steaming Hot
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Out of (the) Pocket + Ottawa accent
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I'm confused. In my experience, Americans say pocketbook when they mean handbag, not when they mean ladies' wallet, as in the womens' equivalent to a billfold, that is, the thing in which you stash your driver's license and currency.
But I am from the much maligned Long Island, so take it for what it's worth.
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It could mean that. There is a woman I work with that uses the term to refer to her wallet. Maybe she is misusing it.
(Come to think of it - she is also from Long Island. Go figure.)
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06-04-2003, 03:28 PM
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Grating Accents
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Originally posted by NotFromHere
WHAT? You're freakin me out?!? You can pick out Seattlites? All west coasters (exception of the pop/soda thing) sound the same. What does that mean? What are you saying?
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I'm saying sometimes I can pick out seattlites. Dunno why, really, but I think the proximity to Vancouver sometimes shows in the accents. The ones I pick out are freaked out, too - though I've only done it when abroad.
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06-04-2003, 03:28 PM
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#8290
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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accents
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Originally posted by mmm3587
epidemic/endemic
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If you just say "It seems like fucking everyone says this shit." you both avoid possible misuse of a word and get to be a potty-mouth.
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06-04-2003, 03:30 PM
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No title
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Out of (the) Pocket + Ottawa accent
Pocketbook=purse=handbag.
But now that you have me thinking about it...pocketbook is a stupid word for something that holds your wallet/checkbook/glasses. As I recall it's an older term that was used more for the clutch type purses. Maybe your coworker has a clutch/wallet and she calls it a pocketbook. Is she old?
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06-04-2003, 03:31 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
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25th Hour
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Spike Lee Suck-up post
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I dissent. 25th Hour was a below average motion picture. 1) Where was the interesting explanation/plot twist about who tipped off the cops? Oh that's right, there wasn't one. Zzzzzzz.
2) The stakes aren't really high enough. 'If I go into prison being so good looking, someone's gonna take my be-hymen.' Well, you're not that good looking anyway, and though prison-rape is obviously an awful thing, I just don't think that the fear of it is a great enough force to justify everyone's behaving the way they do. 3) If he's that good looking now, he's going to be good looking when the bruises heal in a few days. Dumb-ass.
On the other hand, Anna Paquin is just too fine for words. And that redeems all, n'est-ce pas?
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06-04-2003, 03:31 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Out of (the) Pocket
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
And a question. Why do Americans call a ladies' wallet a pocketbook? It's not a book. And women don't carry their wallets in their pockets.
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I personally call it a Handbag.
According to sites via google, "out of pocket" [meaning unavailable] started about 25 years ago in (of all places) the Southwest.
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06-04-2003, 03:32 PM
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#8294
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
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Out of (the) Pocket + Ottawa accent
Quote:
Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
It could mean that. There is a woman I work with that uses the term to refer to her wallet. Maybe she is misusing it.
(Come to think of it - she is also from Long Island. Go figure.)
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Definitions of pocketbook include purse, handbag, and "flat folding case for money or personal papers that can be carried in a pocket or handbag," but I have never heard anybody use it in the last sense. Maybe she is a transplant? Does she end her sentences with "at"?
Some of my word usage may not be typical of Long Island, because my mother was European and English was her third language.
Edited to add I know European sounds silly, but her ethnicity is well-known in my office and combined with my regular but unintentional off-board use of "recockulous" and "timmy," I'm worried that my habit will become known.
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06-04-2003, 03:32 PM
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#8295
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
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Quote:
Originally posted by leagleaze
They are actually holding a news conference on the Stewart indictment. You can watch it live on MSNBC if you are so inclined.
Since when did we start holding press conferences every time someone famous (or involved with a famous case) gets indicted or arrested? Did that start with OJ or was it common before?
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When the DAs/US attys/etc. realized that tv could be used to enhance political careers?
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