Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
My bad, I jumped. Bad morning. Motherfucking gov't took 49% of my bonus check. Fuckers.

That's outrageous!!! Its amazing how close the Clintons came to turning America into a eurosocialist style dump.

Thank Allah and his cousin Jesus that W and his crew of adults are in the White House-at the rate he's going and with his steely resolve, by 2008 the Code should be abolished! PTL!!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Hey, no offense meant, but you remind me of this woman who works at my firm: senior associate, will probably make partner first try, really well respected, really attractive, great body, but very concerned about finding Superman. If she got a little less intense for a second, she would find a great guy and be happy; she can't.

If something means something to you, do it. Get pregnant, if you can and you want to. Single mother homes are normal now. If you can't get pregnant, adopt a kid. There are plenty. Sure, some might be of a different race or creed than you, or a toddler instead of an infant, but it's a melting pot, remember? If you are so worried about the child being of your own womb, there are a lot of dorks out there. Find one, and have kids with him. Don't want to marry out of neccessity? Then childbearing must not be as important to you as you think it is.

Anyway, I am not trying to be critiical. I am just amazed by this phenomenon of strong, great, yet needy women unable overcome some sort of base reproductive instinct even as they excel at their careers. In my co-worker's case, and in your case, it doesn't seem like you even want kids. You just need to want a kid.

mm(glad that the instincts of the human male still exhibited today are far more stupid and banal than evolutionariliy necessary)m

The example you cite above is why I never fucked a lawyer sober.

Most of the lawyers I deal with are social fucking invalids (this board seems to attract more rebellious, loose type folks, so i do not include anyone here). They're super high strung and have major poles up their asses. Couple this with the biological clock and you have a fucking disaster waiting to happen.

I messed around with a few female lawyers many years back and recall them all being bags of cats. I imagine women probably have the same results with most male lawyers. Sometimes these anal nutcases are great in the sack because its the only place they ever get to release tons of pent up insanity, but even great sex doesn't make up for their neurosis and nitpickiness.

Some twisted wench I hooked up with for a while actually told me she couldn't keep sleeping with me because I didn't fit in with her stiffer colleagues (I was the guy ordering double bourbons at happy hour and cracking off color jokes to her dork contingent friends, which I thought was being friendly, but she found offensive).

S(fuck lawyers figurately, never literally)D

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Seven of Nine

That is pretty funny. But, did anybody else notice how freaky the third black and white photo is? I swear, that thing sent shivers down my spine.

Seven

Me too!! I was laughing away as I read the thing, and then clicked the pictures and I went from amused to slightly nervous. I wonder if the $50+ K was a legitimate bid.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Some twisted wench I hooked up with for a while actually told me she couldn't keep sleeping with me because I didn't fit in with her stiffer colleagues (I was the guy ordering double bourbons at happy hour and cracking off color jokes to her dork contingent friends, which I thought was being friendly, but she found offensive).

S(fuck lawyers figurately, never literally)D

It's really, REALLY fun to crack those jokes though. Especially if you know that the squares find them offensive. I don't care how much people want me to grow up. I'm not going to do it. It's FUN acting like a juvenile. I CAN discuss Flaubert, Ghiberti or St. Francis of Assisi with anyone, but it's much more FUN to talk about porn.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
It's really, REALLY fun to crack those jokes though. Especially if you know that the squares find them offensive. I don't care how much people want me to grow up. I'm not going to do it. It's FUN acting like a juvenile. I CAN discuss Flaubert, Ghiberti or St. Francis of Assisi with anyone, but it's much more FUN to talk about porn.

Totally agreed. It is bad enough to have to be serious in our work but who the fuck wants to carry that shit over into personal time?* The other problem with lawyers is that many of them come from a long line of sub-human tight-asses. Most of the fun lawyers that I know came into this the way that I did -- first in the family to not be a blue-collar clock-puncher. Maybe it is because, despite all of the whining of working so much for it, we get our paychecks and inside say "fucking "a" I am gonna ride this bitch until the wheels fall off because I make 4+ times what my folks did in their best year." Or maybe we were just never taught how to "act" properly -- and I do mean "act."


*Which is why I left lawfirm life. Working corporate means less of an asshole quotient in my experience. These guys don't gape when I say "fuck."

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
but it's much more FUN to talk about porn.

Its even more fun to watch it!! But of course 99.9% of lawyers never fucking watch it as part of their work day. Philistines!

I am not even sure that websurfing www.sexxxxyamatuers.com is billable, but so far the clients have not complained so Tallyho!

Penske

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It closed at over $50K.

Some bastard just paid 50 big ones to be tormented by someone's lingering bad karma. That just rocks!

not7y(go Ducks)S

It's a Black Thing. You wouldn't understand.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
(why lawyers are such tightasses)

I don't know if anal-retentive joyless stiffs are drawn to the profession, or if otherwise pleasant human beings are turned into lifeless drones as a result of it. Many people I knew in law schools were amusing, thoughtful, politically concerned and social-good-motivated, but then turned into backstabbing, partnership-grubbing, nasty soulless hours-whores right after the bar exam.

Then again, these are the lawyers I avoid like the plague. Most of the ones I know/hang with are pretty fun.

PJ

[evenodds]

Originally posted by purse junkie
You can't blame even someone who really doesn't want kids from being ambivalent--there is *so* much pressure on women to have them (with the caveat that you can expect your career to be screwed, unlike guys who have 'em) and *such* a strong message that you're an abnormal, evil, unnatural, selfish shrew if you don't. Guys who don't want kids simply don't get the same type of mean-spirited sexist crap over it.

I am beginning to suffer mightily from the ticking of my clock. It started ticking when I met the OddMan and it gets louder every passing year. Before then, I was completely uninterested in reproducing or parenting anything other than my siamese cat.

I am not yet ready to have kids because our lives are too chaotic, so I spend more time than I should worrying whether I will be able to conceive when things calm down or if that window has already closed.

We have made what is becoming a more common decision among our friends to have the OM become the primary caregiver when the time does come for us to reproduce or adopt. That this is becoming a common choice either represents that most of our male friends are slackers married to high acheiving women, that the tech market is still so bad here that their career paths look uncertain at best, or that the societal pressure on men to care for their children is increasing.

Even(for us, all of the above)Odds

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by evenodds
I am not yet ready to have kids because our lives are too chaotic, so I spend more time than I should worrying whether I will be able to conceive when things calm down or if that window has already closed.

Even(for us, all of the above)Odds

Every now and then, when I've decided that no one is ever going to be crazy enough to settle down with me, I think about going it alone and having a kid. Then I come to my senses and realize that I may be over dramaticizing things a bit. I'm pretty sure, though, that I'll be getting a puppy within the next three months.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Totally agreed. It is bad enough to have to be serious in our work but who the fuck wants to carry that shit over into personal time?* The other problem with lawyers is that many of them come from a long line of sub-human tight-asses. Most of the fun lawyers that I know came into this the way that I did -- first in the family to not be a blue-collar clock-puncher. Maybe it is because, despite all of the whining of working so much for it, we get our paychecks and inside say "fucking "a" I am gonna ride this bitch until the wheels fall off because I make 4+ times what my folks did in their best year." Or maybe we were just never taught how to "act" properly -- and I do mean "act."


*Which is why I left lawfirm life. Working corporate means less of an asshole quotient in my experience. These guys don't gape when I say "fuck."

Trahser, your statement does not only apply to folks who are first generation lawyers. I have a handful of lawyers in my family, and most of them are tightass dickheads (showing me their new BMW at family functions, talking shop, etc... like I give a fuck). The one cool one took me aside while I was in law school and told me to run from law for my life. Comically, he's the most successful of the lot of them. Oh, he quit law by the way and is in business.

I agree that fucking with dorks and making them feel uncomfortable. Its a really cheap guilty pleasure (yes, I also like net porn, AC/DC and Budweiser in cans).

Most of the detritus I deal with everyday thinks they've grabbed the brass ring. Fuckin nitwits. I hate having to discuss cases with the turds when i was busy searching google for 80s centerfolds.

S(and these twits, you can't even ask most them over to your place to smoke a j - its like they grew up in closets)D

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by evenodds
I am beginning to suffer mightily from the ticking of my clock. It started ticking when I met the OddMan and it gets louder every passing year. Before then, I was completely uninterested in reproducing or parenting anything other than my siamese cat.

I am not yet ready to have kids because our lives are too chaotic, so I spend more time than I should worrying whether I will be able to conceive when things calm down or if that window has already closed.

We have made what is becoming a more common decision among our friends to have the OM become the primary caregiver when the time does come for us to reproduce or adopt. That this is becoming a common choice either represents that most of our male friends are slackers married to high acheiving women, that the tech market is still so bad here that their career paths look uncertain at best, or that the societal pressure on men to care for their children is increasing.

Even(for us, all of the above)Odds

What do you call a slacker who keeps getting ahead despite hating what he does and thinks the whole goddamn industry is a fucking joke?

S(I keep waiting to be found out for the fraud I am... And I'm a massive fucking fraud - If lawyers weren't so unable to pick up on subtle hints, I'd have been fired based on my attitude alone years ago)D

[evenodds]

In another fabulous move to improve the local economy, Austin joins other cities banning smoking in restaurants, clubs, and bars, and within 15 feet of the entrance to any such establishment.

Those of you intending to visit 6th Street or the Warehouse district would be advised to patch up before heading downtown, since you'll be barred from smoking anywhere except perhaps the middle of the street.

Article here: http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/...06smoking.html

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by purse junkie
I don't know if anal-retentive joyless stiffs are drawn to the profession, or if otherwise pleasant human beings are turned into lifeless drones as a result of it. Many people I knew in law schools were amusing, thoughtful, politically concerned and social-good-motivated, but then turned into backstabbing, partnership-grubbing, nasty soulless hours-whores right after the bar exam.

PJ

Maybe you are joking and I am missing it, but most of the people I went to law school with had all the signs of being those kind of people. Things like heavy neuroses, living in their own worlds about all kinds of stuff, obsessing about stuff, missing the forest for the trees, etc. Many seemed to think way too highly of themselves, think they were better than everyone and generall walk around looking like they were thinking "In ten years at our reunion, everyone will see how great I did and how I am so much better/smarter than everyone else." I never wished ill will on anyone, but I did feel that karma was somewhat right in the world when the gunners first year ended up with bad grades. Not when a few failed various bar exams, though. Nothing good comes of that.

Those people are more likely, I think, to go to big law firms, where that kind of behaviour increases. But I also saw it, and still see it, in a pretty wide cross-section of the legal profession.

Not to run down my co-workers too much, though. I actually think that most of the people I work with manifest their character flaws* in a personal and internal way. I like the people I work with and for (most of the time); but you can see their problems. Comments like "If I'm not married with a kid in three years I don't think my life will have had any meaning. I work all the time and I have nothing to show for it." are sad, but do something about it then!

* And, of course, who am I to talk? Mine are as bad as anyone's.

[dtb]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Don't plan to be a mom but the idiot guilt trip people throw on 'em no matter what they do ticks me off.

I think what TF was saying was that no one could say anything that would make her feel worse. Everyone is her own worst critic.

What people can say about the subject can be hurtful, but it can't be worse than the guilt/disappointment/wistfulness (YMMV) that comes with not being able to spend the afternoon playing and hanging out with your kid(s). Of course, I would go crazy if I had to do it every day, but there are times when I really wish I could spend the day with the kids -- especially in the summer when there's no school and lots of time for activities and adventures.

Life's a trade-off, what can I say?