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Old 03-11-2004, 11:35 AM   #856
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It makes no sense to heavily subsidize the production and then tax the consumption, aside from a desire to increase the government's cash flow.
Thank you for translating my main point into English.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:40 AM   #857
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You're forgetting that people will eat what they can afford to eat on a regluar basis. Let's put aside the convenience factor for a moment. People eat some of this stuff because it's cheaper to do so.
I'm vegetarian apart from ocassional consumption of sushi, so most of the food I eat is cheaper anyway than a meat-based diet, but I took a share in a local farm last year and (apart from what I spend when I eat out), I spend less on food for me than I have in a long time. It's not really that inconvenient either. You just pick up your vegetables every week. And this is mostly organic food - for organic food it is dirt (pardon the pun) cheap.

So I don't think it is as much of an affordability problem - cheap good food can be found, as an education problem. People are instinctively drawn to high-fat, sweet, overloaded with flavor type food, and if this food is also advertised as "good for you", which much crappy processed food is, some people are not educated enough to know the difference, and won't seek out alternatives.

Maybe it is up to the people who are educated to educate others, rather than just criticizing, because it is us who probably end up paying for their health problems.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:46 AM   #858
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I'm vegetarian apart from ocassional consumption of sushi, so most of the food I eat is cheaper anyway than a meat-based diet, but I took a share in a local farm last year and (apart from what I spend when I eat out), I spend less on food for me than I have in a long time. It's not really that inconvenient either. You just pick up your vegetables every week. And this is mostly organic food - for organic food it is dirt (pardon the pun) cheap.
A lot of the "it's cheaper to eat fast food" myth stems from people who truly do eat paycheck to paycheck, and who never go into a grocery store and stock up their kitchen with "ingredients". In a kitchen without oil, flour, sugar, and all the million other little items, you can't make a dinner unless you buy everything for that dinner. Thus, a Big Mac becomes a cheaper alternative.

Granted, it's not truly cheaper - but, in a very short-term view (which is what people with ten dollars until next payday tend to live by), it's more managable.

(Picking up our half-cow tonight. The farm share idea is wonderful, if you have the bucks to invest up front.)
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:52 AM   #859
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A lot of the "it's cheaper to eat fast food" myth stems from people who truly do eat paycheck to paycheck, and who never go into a grocery store and stock up their kitchen with "ingredients". In a kitchen without oil, flour, sugar, and all the million other little items, you can't make a dinner unless you buy everything for that dinner.
For a bacon sandwich all you need is bread/bacon/frying pan.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:55 AM   #861
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Dasani water's secret ingredient

Coke recently rolled out a new ad campaign in conjunction with the introdcution of Dasani water into the UK market. At last, the secret ingredient is revealed:

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Old 03-11-2004, 11:56 AM   #862
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:58 AM   #863
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It makes no sense to heavily subsidize the production and then tax the consumption, aside from a desire to increase the government's cash flow.
Is tobacco subsidized? Or are you being sarcastic?
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Concur.
Is this better?
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:01 PM   #865
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Is tobacco subsidized? Or are you being sarcastic?
Is tobacco a necessity?
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The Orlando Sentinal story talked about how depressed he has been because the Magic sucks so bad. I wish the guy could get to a decent team, because it's fun watching him in the playoffs, and you won't see him this year.
Blame Grant Hill and his overwhelming, useless contract.

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Is this better?
I wasn't suggesting that you change it. Nobody ever said that disturbing was a bad thing.
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Is this better?
Only if you have protection.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:04 PM   #869
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I didnt realize that brown rice and beans were expensive. Or sweet potatoes. And steamed broccoli. Bullshti. They crave salt. Fine, let them eat their disgusting food, just get the hell off my payroll and dont expect me to pay for your heart attacks and surgeries.
There's a great movie that came out at Sundance recently where a healthy guy eats nothing but fast food for a month. At the end of the month, his cholestrol is throught the roof and he's gained 30 LBS. Yes, 30. The star said his joints hurt and he felt lethargic and shitty the whole time. Now, imagine eating that stuff for a period of years.
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Is this better?
Yes. Thank you.
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