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06-09-2003, 05:30 PM
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#8761
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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06-09-2003, 05:31 PM
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#8762
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
Posts: 8,197
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To Sir, with Love
Quote:
Originally posted by Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago
(Edited so as not to appear to be a hypocrite- Jesus)
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Don't forget your original post.
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06-09-2003, 05:47 PM
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#8763
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Bummer
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ife_lottery_dc
(Spree: Man wins lottery, must forfeit winnings after jury determines ticket was bought with drug sale proceeds)
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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06-09-2003, 06:05 PM
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#8765
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Moving on up
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NOLA
Posts: 58
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To Madame, with Lust
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Don't forget your original post.
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Is this some kind of veiled sexual double entendre?!? robusto-pussy, do you have a savior fetish?!?!
I thought the cybersexing days of this board were a thing of the past, but if you are suggesting what I think you are suggesting I may have to go back and reread some of Lester's old messages to see how one of these deals is sealed. That and lay into a few dozen bottles of cheap booze.
Jesus (that's the Son of God to you!) Just left Chicago
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Last edited by Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago; 06-09-2003 at 09:07 PM..
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06-09-2003, 06:10 PM
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#8766
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
Posts: 8,197
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Hot for Teacher
Quote:
Originally posted by Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago
Is this some kind of veiled sexual double entendre?!?
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Will you be workin' from one end to the other and all points in between?
Last edited by robustpuppy; 06-09-2003 at 06:22 PM..
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06-09-2003, 06:23 PM
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#8767
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Moving on up
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NOLA
Posts: 58
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Oh Cum All Ye Faithful
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Will you be workin' from one end to the other and all points in between?
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The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh you all the way. And back again.
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Have a cigar, you're gonna go far
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06-09-2003, 06:27 PM
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#8768
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
Posts: 8,197
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Taking Care of Business Is His Name
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Originally posted by Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh you all the way. And back again.
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Sounds promising. And no worries about calling out the wrong name.
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06-09-2003, 06:57 PM
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#8769
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
Posts: 2,807
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Unfair forfeiture ruling combined with abject stupidity
I can't believe that this guy collects $5.5 million in the lottery and THREE DAYS LATER gets busted for selling coke.
Of course, maybe he's one of those guys who was determined to keep it real and not let his new wealth change him one bit.
"I'm thrilled and blessed and thankful to have won the lottery. I might pay down some debts, buy my parents a new house, but I'm still the same old me. It's not like I'm about to quit my job. You'll still be able to find me where I've always been, selling coke out of the back of my uncle's ice house."
That said, I think it's wrong that lottery winnings are forfietable. I see the gov'ts argument -- if cars bought with drug monies are forfeited, then lottery tickets, win or lose, get forfeited too. I think there's a distinction in kind, but I can see both sides. I can't believe that this guy lost on the key factual issue -- how did the government prove beyond a reasonable doubt (it is a criminal standard, right, for forfeitures?) that the winning ticket was bought with drug money? That seems impossible. It seems impossible on a preponderance of the evidence standard. Maybe it's just that some Texas juries don't feel awful friendly towards convicted coke-peddlers. Still, this one leaves a bad taste in my mouth from a fairness perspective.
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06-09-2003, 07:02 PM
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#8770
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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Unfair forfeiture ruling combined with abject stupidity
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Originally posted by str8outavannuys
That said, I think it's wrong that lottery winnings are forfietable. I see the gov'ts argument -- if cars bought with drug monies are forfeited, then lottery tickets, win or lose, get forfeited too. I think there's a distinction in kind, but I can see both sides.
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I don't know the law on forfeiture, but I don't think it's as high a standard as criminal. That's why the gov't likes it--because it's easier to take away the money than lock the guy up.
One reason to pursue lottery tickets is they've long been used as a method of money laundering. There was a case in Boston a number of years ago about one of the noted crime leaders (maybe Whitey Bulger) winning a significant prize on a scratcher ticket. The suspicion was that he had a bunch of his folks buy tons of scratcher tickets and then collect the small prizes, which are then "clean" money. Even though the gov't takes a 50% haircut, 50% clean is better than 100% dirty, I guess. Being Boston, no one tried to prosecute; of course, he fled to parts unknown before anyone could (thanks FBI informants!).
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06-09-2003, 07:12 PM
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#8771
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Moving on up
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NOLA
Posts: 58
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Don't Deny Me
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Sounds promising. And no worries about calling out the wrong name.
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Truly I say to you that on any night of your choosing, before my cock crows, you shall cry Jesus three times!
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Have a cigar, you're gonna go far
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06-09-2003, 07:35 PM
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#8772
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In a teeny, tiny, little office
Posts: 14,167
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Brigadoon
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Originally posted by London Joker
So THIS is where y'all have been hiding!
Are the gang all here?
Brit, Kafka, Chef, Bob, Paigow, etc.
Miss me?
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Good to see you, old sot. How've you been?
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06-09-2003, 07:41 PM
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#8773
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In a teeny, tiny, little office
Posts: 14,167
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Hot for Teacher
Quote:
Originally posted by robustpuppy
Will you be workin' from one end to the other and all points in between?
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Slut.
Tax(it's over between us)wonk
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06-09-2003, 07:59 PM
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#8774
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prodigal poster
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: gate 27
Posts: 2,710
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FB Book Club
I've closed the thread Leagl opened to solicit submissions for our Amazon affiliaton. This main thread continues to be the place to discuss books, etc.
To prove that I mean it, I am currently reading two wonderful books I highly recommend:
Life of Pi by Yann Martel (Booker Prize winner, now in paperback)
NYT review: http://query.nytimes.com/search/full...54C0A9649C8B63
The Portrait of Dr. Gachet: the Story of a van Gogh Masterpiece, Money, Politics, Collectors, Greed and Loss by Cynthia Saltzman
NYT Review: http://query.nytimes.com/search/full...57C0A96E958260
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06-09-2003, 08:13 PM
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#8775
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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Timing is everything
Quote:
str8outavannuys
I can't believe that this guy collects $5.5 million in the lottery and THREE DAYS LATER gets busted for selling coke.
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Buying - yes.
Selling - no, that is definitely odd.
not7yS
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