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11-18-2004, 03:45 AM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Celebrity Trial Pool
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Can we discuss what this trial is going to do to Geragos' career here, or does that belong in the Death Pool?
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What was he famous for before this? Getting fired by Michael Jackson? Putting on the famous "I was preparing for a part as a shoplifter" defense of Winona Ryder?
Okay, he beat Ken Starr in a trial. But given what became of that particular trainwreck, will the jaundiced eye of history consider that to have been the pull-it-out-of-your-ass miracle it seemed to be at the time?
I have no idea whether he has skills as a lawyer. All I know is that his defense of SP was straight-up Hollywood --- overpromise, underdeliver. In fairness, his client was guilty as fuuuuuuck.
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11-18-2004, 12:33 PM
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Celebrity Trial Pool
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
What was he famous for before this? Getting fired by Michael Jackson? Putting on the famous "I was preparing for a part as a shoplifter" defense of Winona Ryder?
Okay, he beat Ken Starr in a trial. But given what became of that particular trainwreck, will the jaundiced eye of history consider that to have been the pull-it-out-of-your-ass miracle it seemed to be at the time?
I have no idea whether he has skills as a lawyer. All I know is that his defense of SP was straight-up Hollywood --- overpromise, underdeliver. In fairness, his client was guilty as fuuuuuuck.
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Yeah, but he still gets paid and will now have a future career as a legal analyst - like Marcia "I can't decide what to do with my hair so I'll go blonde" Clark.
His career will do as well as it ever has - he was never a Johnny Cochran.
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11-18-2004, 12:58 PM
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Apathy rocks!
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Celebrity Trial Pool
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Can we discuss what this trial is going to do to Geragos' career here, or does that belong in the Death Pool?
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I read somewhere yesterday (I'll look for the link) that a complaint was filed against Geragos for the boat that he left parked near the courthouse.
ETA: - In a complaint filed Friday with the California Bar Association, attorney John B. Thompson accuses Mark Geragos of trying to "engage in nonverbal communication" with jurors deliberating Peterson's guilt.
Link to CNN article
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11-18-2004, 01:23 PM
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Celebrity Trial Pool
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
What was he famous for before this? Getting fired by Michael Jackson? Putting on the famous "I was preparing for a part as a shoplifter" defense of Winona Ryder?
Okay, he beat Ken Starr in a trial. But given what became of that particular trainwreck, will the jaundiced eye of history consider that to have been the pull-it-out-of-your-ass miracle it seemed to be at the time?
I have no idea whether he has skills as a lawyer. All I know is that his defense of SP was straight-up Hollywood --- overpromise, underdeliver. In fairness, his client was guilty as fuuuuuuck.
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I saw him on the panel news shows all the time talking about celebrity trials... called one suspect a "sociopath". Oh wait, that was Scott Peterson he called a sociopath (before he hired him, of course).
Next trial looks to be Blake... I heard jury selection is ongoing. Right?
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12-13-2004, 04:44 PM
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Peterson verdict
Drudge (via the AP) is reporting that the verdict in the sentencing phase of Scotty's trial comes down at 4:30 EST.
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12-13-2004, 05:51 PM
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Peterson verdict
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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Drudge (via the AP) is reporting that the verdict in the sentencing phase of Scotty's trial comes down at 4:30 EST.
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Jury votes death.
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12-13-2004, 06:05 PM
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Peterson verdict
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Jury votes death.
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Sweet. 15 more years of hearing about this case.
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12-13-2004, 06:13 PM
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Peterson verdict
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Sweet. 15 more years of hearing about this case.
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Maybe the judge will do something radical and sentence him to life. The jury's decision is merely a recommendation. Stay tuned to the sentencing, scheduled for February 25.
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12-14-2004, 02:56 AM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Peterson verdict
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Originally posted by Dualit
Maybe the judge will do something radical and sentence him to life. The jury's decision is merely a recommendation.
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Yeah, that'll happen.
I'm not happy about the existence of the death penalty, but if we live in a country where governors have been elected on platforms of putting retarded people to death, but Scott Peterson lives because he "loves bunnies" and golfs, I'm gonna be pissed. More so if it's a retired judge who makes that decision over the judgment of 12 laypeople.
In a country that values diversity of opinion, justice is not a result. Justice in such a society has to be consensus regarding a fair process. I'm satisfied that the process that distinguishes between guilty and innocent in our country is the best we can devise within a democratic framework. I am not at all confident that the process to decide between LWOP and Death is fair, but that belief is not motivated by the Scott Peterson verdict. If anything, while I don't like the death penalty, I'm satisfied by this verdict that the system is more fair than I'd feared. If the jury had recommended LWOP in light of the case that Geragos put on (which was essentially that SP wasn't the type of person we should put to death in our society), I would be even more sick at heart. Because if a white guy who fucking kills his wife and unborn son on Christmas Eve isn't the "type" of guy who gets the death penalty in our country, then I think it doesn't take a genius to figure what part of the above description was the "type" that saved his life.
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12-14-2004, 10:50 PM
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Peterson verdict
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Yeah, that'll happen.
I'm not happy about the existence of the death penalty, but if we live in a country where governors have been elected on platforms of putting retarded people to death, but Scott Peterson lives because he "loves bunnies" and golfs, I'm gonna be pissed. More so if it's a retired judge who makes that decision over the judgment of 12 laypeople.
In a country that values diversity of opinion, justice is not a result. Justice in such a society has to be consensus regarding a fair process. I'm satisfied that the process that distinguishes between guilty and innocent in our country is the best we can devise within a democratic framework. I am not at all confident that the process to decide between LWOP and Death is fair, but that belief is not motivated by the Scott Peterson verdict. If anything, while I don't like the death penalty, I'm satisfied by this verdict that the system is more fair than I'd feared. If the jury had recommended LWOP in light of the case that Geragos put on (which was essentially that SP wasn't the type of person we should put to death in our society), I would be even more sick at heart. Because if a white guy who fucking kills his wife and unborn son on Christmas Eve isn't the "type" of guy who gets the death penalty in our country, then I think it doesn't take a genius to figure what part of the above description was the "type" that saved his life.
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Golfist fuck.
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12-14-2004, 11:09 PM
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Peterson verdict
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Yeah, that'll happen.
I'm not happy about the existence of the death penalty, but if we live in a country where governors have been elected on platforms of putting retarded people to death, but Scott Peterson lives because he "loves bunnies" and golfs, I'm gonna be pissed. More so if it's a retired judge who makes that decision over the judgment of 12 laypeople.
In a country that values diversity of opinion, justice is not a result. Justice in such a society has to be consensus regarding a fair process. I'm satisfied that the process that distinguishes between guilty and innocent in our country is the best we can devise within a democratic framework. I am not at all confident that the process to decide between LWOP and Death is fair, but that belief is not motivated by the Scott Peterson verdict. If anything, while I don't like the death penalty, I'm satisfied by this verdict that the system is more fair than I'd feared. If the jury had recommended LWOP in light of the case that Geragos put on (which was essentially that SP wasn't the type of person we should put to death in our society), I would be even more sick at heart. Because if a white guy who fucking kills his wife and unborn son on Christmas Eve isn't the "type" of guy who gets the death penalty in our country, then I think it doesn't take a genius to figure what part of the above description was the "type" that saved his life.
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OJ didn't get death.
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01-07-2005, 05:30 PM
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Phil admits he shot her
LOS ANGELES - Famed music producer Phil Spector at first told police he accidentally shot B-movie actress Lana Clarkson to death at his home in February 2003, contrary to his later claim that she committed suicide, newly released transcripts of grand jury testimony show.
Beatrice Rodriguez, a police officer dispatched to Spector’s mansion in a Los Angeles suburb, said that when she arrived, the 64-year-old music producer said, “.... I didn’t mean to shoot her. It was an accident.”
Spector’s driver, Adriano De Souza, told the grand jury that about three minutes after he heard a shot inside the house and called police, Spector came out holding a gun and told him, ”I think I killed somebody.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6799800/
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02-19-2005, 07:51 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Thought the Michael Jackson trial was going to be a freakshow? Check out the witnesses in Robert Blake's.
Crack-smoking monkeys in 1985? They were certainly ahead of the curve on that one --- cultural vanguard stuff. Poo-flinging will be huge in 2015.
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02-19-2005, 08:14 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Peterson verdict
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm not happy about the existence of the death penalty, but if we live in a country where governors have been elected on platforms of putting retarded people to death, but Scott Peterson lives because he "loves bunnies" and golfs, I'm gonna be pissed. More so if it's a retired judge who makes that decision over the judgment of 12 laypeople.
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I'm not happy that the death penalty isn't imposed on all murders and rapists, but I feel better knowing that pedofiles and serial killers are often murdered in prison. This isn't ideal though because the vigilantes often face punishment for correcting the failure of the judicial system to dispense absolute justice.
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02-21-2005, 11:31 AM
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No Rank For You!
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9/11, Fear, and and the Selling of American Empire
Deleted for spamming the boards.
Take it to politics and keep it there.
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