New and Improved Celebrity Death Pool 2005

[Valentine]

Deleted for spamming the boards.

Take it to politics and keep it there.

RT

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Valentine
Deleted for spamming the boards.

Take it to politics and keep it there.

RT

Dear Valentine- No worries! Most of us welcome a bright new Poster-

Do'nt worry about Ms. My rules are soooo important- most of us just put her on ignore!

So where do you live? What kind of law do you do? Are you a guy, or a girl? Are you hot (if your a girl)?

:dance2:

:chatter:

:cheers:

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Aw Less, what the hell?

Writer Hunter S. Thompson dead at 67
Son says counterculture writer shot himself

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7005168/

This is what I have to say about this topic. If you don't like it, if you think its sappy, I don't care. I can't not comment on the man:

John -

The most accurate political journalist of ours and our parents' generation blew his mind out in Colorado on Saturday nite. If you've read anything I've ever written in my mountains of emails, you know I was a fan. In fact, I'd dare I say I "understood" the man's writing.

Most of the press will spin this as a tragic but predictable end to an outlaw career. They'll probably say it with a "caveat emptor" epilogue. "This. Is. What. Happens. To. Those. Who. Step. Outside. The. Lines." It'll be blamed on drug excess. It'll be a lesson to those who'd dare to live on their own terms. That is unfortunate, because it's dead wrong. Drugs didn't kill Thompson - his unflinching refusal to look at life thorugh anything but an honest lens is what did him in. 67 years butting heads with a system of facades upon facades - calling hands in a monstrous casino of charlatans. I'd say he may a noble effort.

There's a myth about people like HST and Kesey and the rest of those "fearless" writers. They're deemed unbreakable. In reality, they are the most vulnerable of anyone. When you tell the truth, when you pull the curtain back, when you expose the underbelly of the machine, you've admitted to yourself that it's all a cosmic farce. You're ruined for the "game" that is, as Thompson called it, "the pursuit of the American Dream." I imagine sometimes it's hard to see an upside to this existence from that vantage point. Perhaps he just happened to have that pistol in his hand at such a moment.

Thompson's most famous line is also his most telling:

"But their loss and failure is ours, too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped to create . . . a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody -- or at least some force -- is tending that Light at the end of the tunnel."

That lesson doesn't apply only to the Acid Culture. He used that failed movement as a strawman. He was really talking about the American Dream. He was talking about us.

Thompson was always right. That must've been one hell of burden to shoulder.

There are few fearless voices like Thompson's left around, and that's our grave loss. What they did, what they said, doesn't "fit" anymore, and that's a shame - in fact, it's downright dangerous to the Republic. I hear a lot about "values" and "belief" and "faith" these days, but I don't hear a lot about "honesty." Hunter Thompson stood for honesty. He told it not just the way he saw it, but the way it actually was. I can't think of a better epitaph.

[SlaveNoMore]

sebastian_dangerfield
This is what I have to say about this topic. If you don't like it, if you think its sappy, I don't care. I can't not comment on the man:

John -

The most accurate political journalist of ours and our parents' generation blew his mind out in Colorado on Saturday nite. If you've read anything I've ever written in my mountains of emails, you know I was a fan. In fact, I'd dare I say I "understood" the man's writing.

Most of the press will spin this as a tragic but predictable end to an outlaw career. They'll probably say it with a "caveat emptor" epilogue. "This. Is. What. Happens. To. Those. Who. Step. Outside. The. Lines." It'll be blamed on drug excess. It'll be a lesson to those who'd dare to live on their own terms. That is unfortunate, because it's dead wrong. Drugs didn't kill Thompson - his unflinching refusal to look at life thorugh anything but an honest lens is what did him in. 67 years butting heads with a system of facades upon facades - calling hands in a monstrous casino of charlatans. I'd say he may a noble effort.

There's a myth about people like HST and Kesey and the rest of those "fearless" writers. They're deemed unbreakable. In reality, they are the most vulnerable of anyone. When you tell the truth, when you pull the curtain back, when you expose the underbelly of the machine, you've admitted to yourself that it's all a cosmic farce. You're ruined for the "game" that is, as Thompson called it, "the pursuit of the American Dream." I imagine sometimes it's hard to see an upside to this existence from that vantage point. Perhaps he just happened to have that pistol in his hand at such a moment.

Thompson's most famous line is also his most telling:

"But their loss and failure is ours, too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped to create . . . a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody -- or at least some force -- is tending that Light at the end of the tunnel."

That lesson doesn't apply only to the Acid Culture. He used that failed movement as a strawman. He was really talking about the American Dream. He was talking about us.

Thompson was always right. That must've been one hell of burden to shoulder.

There are few fearless voices like Thompson's left around, and that's our grave loss. What they did, what they said, doesn't "fit" anymore, and that's a shame - in fact, it's downright dangerous to the Republic. I hear a lot about "values" and "belief" and "faith" these days, but I don't hear a lot about "honesty." Hunter Thompson stood for honesty. He told it not just the way he saw it, but the way it actually was. I can't think of a better epitaph.

How high were you when you wrote this?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
How high were you when you wrote this?

Dead sober. I'd stand by every word.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dead sober. I'd stand by every word.

Two great ones in three days: Reggie Roby died today at age 43!!!!! You'll be missed, old Dolphin.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dead sober. I'd stand by every word.

Beautifully put Sebastian. You hit it on the head. You expressed exactly how I felt about HST in just the right way. Thanks. It sucks that he's gone, when we need him more than ever. Maybe he felt that the fight was too much for him. If so, where does that leave the rest of us?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Beautifully put Sebastian. You hit it on the head. You expressed exactly how I felt about HST in just the right way. Thanks. It sucks that he's gone, when we need him more than ever. Maybe he felt that the fight was too much for him. If so, where does that leave the rest of us?

I disagree as to his value as a writer, and "being right," but he certainly was unique and a fun read.

A few years back I pick this up-

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

Begun in 1959 by a then-twenty-two-year-old Hunter S. Thompson, The Rum Diary is a brilliantly tangled love story of jealousy, treachery and violent alcoholic lust in the Caribbean boomtown that was San Juan, Puerto Rico, in the late 1950s. Exuberant and mad, youthful and energetic, The Rum Diary is an outrageous, drunken romp in the spirit of Thompson's bestselling Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Hell's Angels.

It was an interesting read- a novel that would be way out of print other than the author otherwise got famous- but if you really like the man, and haven't read this you should. N.B. He wasn't "gonzo" in 1959, despite the sales spin quoted.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I disagree as to his value as a writer, and "being right," but he certainly was unique and a fun read.

A few years back I pick this up-

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846



It was an interesting read- a novel that would be way out of print other than the author otherwise got famous- but if you really like the man, and haven't read this you should. N.B. He wasn't "gonzo" in 1959, despite the sales spin quoted.

Paigow,

Maybe I was wrong to use "right." He did claim Kerry and McGovern'd win their election races. There are only so many synonyms for honest. I remain rather Caulfield-esque, even in my advancing age, and HST called out the "phonies," so I liked his voice.

Whilst whoring as I do, reveling in dishonest horseshit day in day out, it's just nice to read an honest voice.

Fuck it. I'm done with it,
SD

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Paigow,

Maybe I was wrong to use "right." He did claim Kerry and McGovern'd win their election races. There are only so many synonyms for honest. I remain rather Caulfield-esque, even in my advancing age, and HST called out the "phonies," so I liked his voice.

Whilst whoring as I do, reveling in dishonest horseshit day in day out, it's just nice to read an honest voice.

Fuck it. I'm done with it,
SD

Hank, maybe you shouldn't wear paigow's wig when you're talking shit.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Hank, maybe you shouldn't wear paigow's wig when you're talking shit.

Neither Paigow or I pick ona word choice for timmy reasons. clearly what I meant was he was often not right/honest. But I am sad he is dead, and clearly Sebastian is sadder, so there is no need to belabor the point.

PS- this is an old avatar- why the confusion?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Former Dolphins punter Reggie Roby, dead at 43.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Aw Less, what the hell?

Writer Hunter S. Thompson dead at 67

There are few writers that I have enjoyed more over time, despite some of his later ramblings, and few writers that probably had a greater effect on me, hence the avatar. Even his later ramblings (such as his column for the SF Examiner in the '80s) would sometimes have incredible bon mots of insight and evocative prose. See also, "The Curse of Lono."

He unrelentingly told it like he thought it was, right or wrong, and he had no problem ramping up the hyperbole and polemic to make his point. Moreover, he was willing to risk personal opprobrium by talking about his own foibles. He made it ok tio admit that you like mushrooms, acid, pot, and booze, and that you thought you would like mescaline if you could find any, and adrenochrome if it was real. (Although, my experience with ether sucked.) Further, how many people are willing to be beat up by the Hells Angels in order to get the story right? Not Tom Wolfe. Not Norman Mailer. Not Gabriel Vasuqez fucking Hughes (or whatever his name is).

Most importantly of all, though, is that he was funny. Fall down, side-splitting laughter that you wanted to share with your friends. You lent his books out. You quoted them. And you wanted to have the opening to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas memorized, and few writers ever evoke that kind of response:

"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half-full of cocaine and a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. But the only thing that worried me was the ether. There is nothing more irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we would be getting into that rotten stuff sooner or later."

[megaloman]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Neither Paigow or I pick ona word choice for timmy reasons. clearly what I meant was he was often not right/honest. But I am sad he is dead, and clearly Sebastian is sadder, so there is no need to belabor the point.

PS- this is an old avatar- why the confusion?

Dude, your mental unwinding is complete. The incidents of misspellings in your postings has reached an all-time high and they are starting to read as the mumblings of someone who engages arguments regarding questions that haven't been asked. Except within the confines of his own head. Further your desperate attempt to resurrect your crumbled persona of irrelevant gadfly by engaging in deceptively confusing avataristic pilfering is almost worthy of pity.

Almost.

[Someone's Evil Twin]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
PS- this is an old avatar- why the confusion?

Ut sementem feceris, ita metes.

RT, nota bene.