Still Hating America.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
True. The responsibility of actually governing, as opposed to just bitching, overwhelmed them.


I cling to the hope that the same won't happen to the Dems.

They did balance the budget.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
What, you think Harvard is better than Bob's Community College and Grille? And that the 20 BB endowment has anything to do with that?

I was thinking of prep schools, actually.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well, the pentagon guy who called on companies to boycott law firms representing gitmo detainees has resigned

I am still boycotting those fuckers.

And, ftr, fwiw, now that Blank Rome has hired Gerry Ferraro, I am boycotting them,

And, my Starbucks boycott is still going strong.

Money talks baby, money talks!

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I was thinking of prep schools, actually.

Who can blame you?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I'm not suggesting you didn't earn what you have, but its tough to argue that someone who can afford a home worth seven figures (unless PA property taxes _vastly_ exceed those in the Dc suburbs) -- including the $11K property tax bill -- is middle class.

S_A_M

Good point. I forget that, to lawyers, "property tax" should be broken down. I do NOT live in a house of that price. My wife advises me roughly half of that number goes to school taxes.

I remain, humbly, very much a member of the middle class.*

*And this is a new house, and the cheapest I could find. R/E is still way overheated.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Good point. I forget that, to lawyers, "property tax" should be broken down. I do NOT live in a house of that price. My wife advises me roughly half of that number goes to school taxes.

I remain, humbly, very much a member of the middle class.*

*And this is a new house, and the cheapest I could find. R/E is still way overheated.

http://www.rickgisondi.com/Listings/...x?LID=27019068

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.rickgisondi.com/Listings/...x?LID=27019068

How and why did you select that?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
How and why did you select that?

I know you and the missus have started talking about another kid, and this place has a bar in the basement, plus a bidet in the powder room.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Good point. I forget that, to lawyers, "property tax" should be broken down. I do NOT live in a house of that price. My wife advises me roughly half of that number goes to school taxes.

I remain, humbly, very much a member of the middle class.*

*And this is a new house, and the cheapest I could find. R/E is still way overheated.

Why don't you want to live 200 miles away? Obviously there is some benefit to you to living where you do -- there's a reason property values are so high. So to some extent, just living where you do pulls you out of the regular schmo category, you dipshit.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I know you and the missus have started talking about another kid, and this place has a bar in the basement, plus a bidet in the powder room.

That's a nice house, and only 23 miles outside of the city. Win/win. That's nice of you, Hank, to help Sebby free up more income for the little luxuries in life.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
That's a nice house, and only 23 miles outside of the city. Win/win. That's nice of you, Hank, to help Sebby free up more income for the little luxuries in life.

sebby would never move there. the area was settled by immigrants from near the Hague, and Sebby hates the Flemish.

[nononono]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why don't you want to live 200 miles away? Obviously there is some benefit to you to living where you do -- there's a reason property values are so high. So to some extent, just living where you do pulls you out of the regular schmo category, you dipshit.

200 miles away isn't all that pretty. That said, I vote for bumping up a little over Hank's budget, moving west for this:

http://www.realtor.com/FindHome/Home...5&lnksrc=00002

Oh, nevermind. 2 bedrooms! Hmmm. Was the best of the lot.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Good point. I forget that, to lawyers, "property tax" should be broken down. I do NOT live in a house of that price. My wife advises me roughly half of that number goes to school taxes.

Ah -- MD does it differently. Property tax is just that, while the county also assesses an income tax surcharge (now about .6%) which helps fund the local schools.

I remain, humbly, very much a member of the middle class.*

We will agree to disagree. After all, your scotch IS $10 more than theirs (not to mention their Bud Light).

S_A_M

[Spanky]

Remember when I posted that article from the prominent CA social conservative about why he is endorsing Giuliani? Here is another article by him:

Museum for Creationism In Santee
Saturday 3 February 2007

Never knew this existed. This museum existed.

children should eb allowed to leanr all sides of an issue, especially those that are scientific. We know that science is not exact. Also, we know that what we thought yesterday is found to be untrue today.

The world is not flat, so why should only one theory be taught or told.

This is a great public service for the community, the children and free speech.

Santee museum brings creationism to life Literal interpretation of Bible is illustrated

By Michele Clock San Diego Union-Tribune February 3, 2007

SANTEE – Leafy, plastic vines climb the walls. Fake tree branches dangle overhead. The piped-in sound of croaking frogs fills the air.

Windows in the walls give a view to colorful finches, a shiny scorpion, even a python named Cuddles.

JOHN GIBBINS / Union-Tribune Cindy Carlson, curator of the Museum of Creation and Earth History in Santee, showed the museum’s python, named Cuddles, to a group of schoolchildren from Berean Bible Baptist Church and Academy in Chula Vista. "Who made snakes?" she asked the students. "God!" they shouted. This lush, gardenlike room is part of the Museum of Creation and Earth History, a beige, two-story structure that brings to life a version of history that isn’t taught in public schools. Here, God created Earth as described in the Bible.

Each year, about 15,000 visitors come to Santee’s only museum, deemed the world’s largest creationist museum by the Northwest Creation Network. (A much larger, $27 million creationist museum under construction in Kentucky will soon snatch the title.)

Folks may say they believe in evolution, but they don’t really buy that humans came from other creatures, said John D. Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research, which runs the free-admission museum.

“You cannot convince a kid they came from a fish,” he said. “Kids know better and people know better.”

A group of uniformed parochial school students was an eager audience at the museum one recent weekday morning. A chorus of “whoas” and “wows” followed as they wandered into the gardenlike room, which is devoted to Days 5, 6 and 7 of creation.

Caleb Barrera, 8, a second-grader at Chula Vista’s Berean Bible Baptist Church and Academy, moved his little camera as close as he could to the critters, snapping photo after photo. Bible in hand, first-grader Matthew Fernandez, 6, tugged fifth-grader Anthony Diez, 10, toward an exhibit crawling with cockroaches.

Soon it was time for museum curator Cindy Carlson to bring out Cuddles.

“He won’t bite,” she assured. With the brown-and-black snake perched on her arm, she asked the students, “Who made snakes?”

“God!” they shouted.

No government funding Just down the street from the Santee Drive In Theatre and a stone’s throw from an auto-body shop, the businesslike building seems an unusual place to tackle such questions as, “What is the meaning of life?” and, “Where did I come from?”

A member of the institute’s board sold this chunk of East County to the institute in the 1980s. Today, the two office buildings there serve as headquarters for the institute, its graduate school and the museum.

A walk through the museum starts and ends in a small bookstore stocked with not-so-subtle titles such as “God Created the Plants & Trees of the World” and “Refuting Evolution.” A sign at the start of the tour states that the museum accepts no government funding. It isn’t affiliated with any church, either.

Visitors step from the green-hued garden room into the reddish-orange glare of “The Fall of Man.” There, a human skull and a preserved tarantula are on display. A tiger painted on the wall bares its teeth as if poised to attack. The sorrowful cries of a man and baby waft overhead.

The next room evokes the inside of Noah’s Ark. A floor-to-ceiling mural shows animals standing in pens. The sounds of cracking thunder and pouring rain can be heard, and a flashing light simulates lightning.

Noah didn’t need to load the largest animals into the ark, a plaque reads. He could have collected “young virile specimens” instead, which could have allowed 50,000 animals to squeeze on board.

Near the end of the tour, a drawing of a healthy, green “Creationist Tree” is juxtaposed near a twisted “Evolutionary Tree.” Written next to the creationist tree: “Genuine Christianity” and “Correct Practices.” The evolutionary tree: “Harmful Philosophies” and “Evil Practices,” including promiscuity, pornography, genocide, slavery and abortion.

Father of creationism The museum has been around almost as long as the Institute for Creation Research, founded by Morris’ late father, Henry Morris, in 1970. It moved to its current location in the mid-1980s.

Morris is credited with helping to spark a modern creationist movement after co-writing the 1961 book “The Genesis Flood.” The work tried to scientifically explain the theory of divine creation.

The movement has grown from very few followers when the book was published to “tens of thousands” today, John Morris said, citing polls that show most Americans believe God had some hand in creation.

Morris, who has led expeditions to Turkey’s Mount Ararat in search of Noah’s Ark, said his father convinced many that creationism was true. John Morris now travels the country making the case for divine creation and against evolution.

From its Santee home, the institute also spreads its message across the world through pamphlets, radio programs broadcast by 1,500 radio stations worldwide, and a 113,000-circulation monthly newsletter.

Popular with students Students on field trips and Bible study groups are among those who visit the museum most.

Berean Bible Baptist Academy student Erika Fernandez, 8, said she liked the room with live animals because her favorite parts of the Bible describe how God made them.

“No one can make any animal but him,” she said.

The school’s principal, Melito Barrera, said he doesn’t worry about the children getting mixed messages about creation and evolution from society.

He points to a nearby corridor in the museum, where photos of creationist scholars hang opposite those of evolutionist scholars. On the evolutionist side, Andrew Carnegie is described as “cruel and heartless in his own day to competitors and laborers alike.” He’s joined by Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler, among others.

“That’s what makes it very clear,” Barrera said. “There’s no gray area. It’s teaching them the truth so that they will know what is in error.”

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
After all, your scotch IS $10 more than theirs (not to mention their Bud Light).
S_A_M

and if I could find the Pa. state store prices I'd call Bullshit on the $10 too.