General discussion - Mom and Dad Esq.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How early is too early to teach kids about batshit crazy strangers? Wife was putting the smaller kid in the car yesterday outside Starbucks, and turned around to see a batshit crazy stranger -- y'know, the sort of person with mental problems which are obvious to the untrained and which would have resulted in her institutionalization until the reformers started to get their way in the late 80s -- talking and gesticulating wildly

Originally posted by ironweed
By the way, you might consider steering clear of that Starbucks if Fringey's hanging out in front on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Once the need for an explanation is inevitable, I prefer not to put it off - otherwise, they are trying to make sense of a world that doesn't make sense, because they are missing key information, and I think that is more frightening to them. Far better that instead that the little guy understand, "OK, now I know what a Republican looks like."

Republican? Damn, G3, I've never degraded you. Why the escalation?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
20% is stingy guys. We're fucking lawyers. Is there anyone here who would would even notice a few extra bucks for the waitstaff?

And kids can be a lift for waiters and waitresses sometimes as well as a mess. Dealing with thankful parents with rowdy kids sounds a lot more pleasant than dealing with dour old spinsters who just whine and whine and whine. The folks who really need to up their tips are the sourpusses who bitch about other folks.

The Big Gold Strike


Mr. Howell discovers a gold mine on the island. He then hires Gilligan to work in the mine. When gold fever strikes the castaways and Mr. Howell is unwilling to share the gold, they begin to charge outlandish prices for the supplies and food that Mr. Howell needs. When the professor repairs the life raft from the Minnow, they all climb in hoping to reach civilization. However, the combined weight of the gold that everyone smuggles on-board the raft causes it to sink. Another rescue foiled!


b: 28-Nov-1964 w: Roland Wolpert d: Stanley Z. Cherry

NOTE: Gilligan is the only one of the seven NOT to smuggle any gold onto the raft!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Republican? Damn, G3, I've never degraded you. Why the escalation?

I never thought you were the batshit crazy stranger. The talking to kids think just didn't sound like you.

[OscarCrease]

Getting desperate to come up with a girl name before baby is born sometime this month. Anyone willing to post some of their favorites? Our two boys have relatively eclectic names - enough so that posting them could "out" me, but I bring it up to let you know that we're not looking for Emily, Hannah, Madison or Kaitlin (NTTAWThoseNames). At the same time, we're also probably not going to go with "Apple" or any other fruit or vegetable for that matter.

So, off the beaten path names that aren't totally loony?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by OscarCrease
Getting desperate to come up with a girl name before baby is born sometime this month. Anyone willing to post some of their favorites? Our two boys have relatively eclectic names - enough so that posting them could "out" me, but I bring it up to let you know that we're not looking for Emily, Hannah, Madison or Kaitlin (NTTAWThoseNames). At the same time, we're also probably not going to go with "Apple" or any other fruit or vegetable for that matter.

So, off the beaten path names that aren't totally loony?

Isabella, Esme, Hildegard, Demetra, Eloise, Marina, Elena.

Electra, Gaia, Clementine, Adelphia, Anatolia, Cherisa, Hermione.

Alessandra, Livia, and, my favorite, Boudicca.

Originally posted by OscarCrease
Getting desperate to come up with a girl name before baby is born sometime this month. Anyone willing to post some of their favorites? Our two boys have relatively eclectic names - enough so that posting them could "out" me, but I bring it up to let you know that we're not looking for Emily, Hannah, Madison or Kaitlin (NTTAWThoseNames). At the same time, we're also probably not going to go with "Apple" or any other fruit or vegetable for that matter.

So, off the beaten path names that aren't totally loony?

I always liked "Maureen" and I think it's been out of fashion long enough to be off the beaten path, but it may be too ethnicity-specific.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by OscarCrease
So, off the beaten path names that aren't totally loony?

I won't give you names we've actually used/are considering, as that would be outable, but I personally hold deep love for:

Esmé (French for "esteemed" or "loved")
Niamh (pronounced "Neeve"; one syllable) (Irish for "light")
Nora (prob. from Latin for "honor" or "light")
Moira/Maura (Irish for "the great")

I recommend against "Semaj" for the reasons stated on the FB.

ETA: Apparently I should marry G3.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by OscarCrease
Getting desperate to come up with a girl name before baby is born sometime this month. Anyone willing to post some of their favorites? Our two boys have relatively eclectic names - enough so that posting them could "out" me, but I bring it up to let you know that we're not looking for Emily, Hannah, Madison or Kaitlin (NTTAWThoseNames). At the same time, we're also probably not going to go with "Apple" or any other fruit or vegetable for that matter.

So, off the beaten path names that aren't totally loony?

Hoa- Vietnamese for peaceful flower pronounced hu-ah
Hana - Japanese pronounced Ha-na almost Hannah

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Isabella, Esme, Hildegard, Demetra, Eloise, Marina, Elena.

Electra, Gaia, Clementine, Adelphia, Anatolia, Cherisa, Hermione.

Alessandra, Livia, and, my favorite, Boudicca.

if Gilligan has only gone another season I'm sure there'd be a great response to this......

[viet_mom]

If you are trying out a brand-new situation on the kid

Heh. "Trying out situations"? Usually we're just fixin to buy shit or feed ourselves, not experiment with the tolerance levels of 2 year olds (NTTAWWT). It's tempting to explain an annoying disturbance by blaming someone for it (i.e., the parent knew, or should have reasonably known, the child would freak, like the old intentional or wilful misconduct thing.) Usually, it has just happened through no fault of anyone. Anyhow, my kid is just exercising her freedom of speech. As they say, the remedy aint to shut her up, but rather "more speech" so I guess that means you can throw a yelling screaming hissy as well. Hijinks ensue!!!

could have an exit strategy in place

Unless my child's crying is causing someone's hair (i.e., mine), or the actual building, to catch fire, I'm going to go ahead and pay for the two cartloads of groceries it's taken me 2 1/2 hours to gather thank you. Exit stragegy? That's gonna be your exit and your strategy, chicky. I'm staying put with my busload of groceries and apopletic kid. Anyhow, it's more practical for you to leave since you're only buying a pack of cigs, a coupla low carb items, condoms (NTTAWWT), overpriced anti-humectant hair lotion, and flavored coffee.

I never signed up to be part of your disciplinary training

Actually, you HAVE, by frequenting a place where children are not banned.

but I guess you have signed up for people to tell your children who are freaking out in public that they are ill-behaved brats who should be left at home with a mean sitter.

Sounds fair to me. But that would also mean I can call you fat and that it bothers me and I wish you'd keep your largesse at home.

Now.....the bitter reality is you're going to have to just deal with my large horde of screaming, foreign born kids, and you and the rest of this great country's childless, nonhomeowners should just go ahead and keep chocking up that 25% of your paycheck to fund my brood's public schooling and other assorted public assistances.

Oh Beautiful For Gracious Skies!!!!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Isabella

I love this name, but it is at least as common lately as all those other names put together.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by viet_mom
Heh. "Trying out situations"? Usually we're just fixin to buy shit or feed ourselves, not experiment with the tolerance levels of 2 year olds (NTTAWWT). It's tempting to explain an annoying disturbance by blaming someone for it (i.e., the parent knew, or should have reasonably known, the child would freak, like the old intentional or wilful misconduct thing.) Usually, it has just happened through no fault of anyone. Anyhow, my kid is just exercising her freedom of speech. As they say, the remedy aint to shut her up, but rather "more speech" so I guess that means you can throw a yelling screaming hissy as well. Hijinks ensue!!!

oh, sweetie, why did you not scroll then post? "Given that it was Ty and bnb, and perhaps Atticus, with whom I was screwing around, I didn't think one of them would be that silly. I would not have responded in that way to, say, vietmom or even SAM."

I have deleted my bitchy mean fuck-with-your-kid response.

I will note that I have absolutely no problem with paying taxes, particularly to make education, child care (day care, sick kid day care, etc), health care better, and, jesus fucking christ, what is the relevance of where the damn kid was born? I have not noticed that foreign-born, american-raised children are brattier or anything. Nice of you to import all of those things into my relatively simple "I hate bratty kids" argument. If there were more and better child care options, fewer parents would be forced to bring their kids to, e.g., the DMV with them, a situation which is pretty much always going to result in a total meltdown.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If there were more and better child care options, fewer parents would be forced to bring their kids to, e.g., the DMV with them, a situation which is pretty much always going to result in a total meltdown.

I would advocate for more and better DMV options first. I'm a giver.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I would advocate for more and better DMV options first. I'm a giver.

I am jealous that Atticus is posting from the future. Where I am, it won't be 5:06 PDT for another 40 minutes or so. If the markets weren't closed, we could get rich off of this.

eta: Gadzooks! I'm in the future, too. Now I'm going to have to hurry to get home to see my kids before bedtime!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
oh, sweetie, why did you not scroll then post? "Given that it was Ty and bnb, and perhaps Atticus, with whom I was screwing around, I didn't think one of them would be that silly. I would not have responded in that way to, say, vietmom or even SAM."

I have deleted my bitchy mean fuck-with-your-kid response.

I will note that I have absolutely no problem with paying taxes, particularly to make education, child care (day care, sick kid day care, etc), health care better, and, jesus fucking christ, what is the relevance of where the damn kid was born? I have not noticed that foreign-born, american-raised children are brattier or anything. Nice of you to import all of those things into my relatively simple "I hate bratty kids" argument. If there were more and better child care options, fewer parents would be forced to bring their kids to, e.g., the DMV with them, a situation which is pretty much always going to result in a total meltdown.

Funny thing is, I'd bet 10 dinners seated next to me and my kids at 3 there'd be fewer incidents than 10 dinners seated next to Fringe's table. don't you have that feeling?