Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck. - Page 60

Shape Shifter · 10-01-2004, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
point- the undecideds are undecided because they're smart and thinking. don't oversimplify this. bush should have killed- he didn't but I don't know that it changes that much.

I know the undecideds. I meet with them in my office. I talk with them on the phone almost every day. They are good people. They are working hard. You know my opinion on this. I'm a leader. A leader leads. And that's what I do.

bilmore · 10-01-2004, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
see, I'm pretty sure I'm ignored. either from the ignore list or people just have stopped reading and scroll by. i mean i said this, I said many other things people second w/o realizing they are seconding. I may move to Tucker Max with P. after all.

It's just that you subliminally affect so many people. You speak, and your positions just . . . become theirs. It's uncanny.

Shape Shifter · 10-01-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Dick Morris just made the same point. Wait are you Dick Morris? Ages match up right? Hmmmmm.

Good God. Even Hannity thought DM's analysis went too far.

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2004, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
It's just that you subliminally affect so many people. You speak, and your positions just . . . become theirs. It's uncanny.

Still... P. keeps PM'ing telling me its time to move on. Like the Eleves in the Ring movies.

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2004, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I know the undecideds. I meet with them in my office. I talk with them on the phone almost every day. They are good people. They are working hard. You know my opinion on this. I'm a leader. A leader leads. And that's what I do.

Well i've a plan to convine the undecided. i want to convene a summit!

sgtclub · 10-01-2004, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Well i've a plan to convine the undecided. i want to convene a summit!

Does anybody know if the undecideds are equally divided among the states?

bilmore · 10-01-2004, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Does anybody know if the undecideds are equally divided among the states?

They're not sure.

Shape Shifter · 10-01-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
see, I'm pretty sure I'm ignored. either from the ignore list or people just have stopped reading and scroll by. i mean i said this, I said many other things people second w/o realizing they are seconding. I may move to Tucker Max with P. after all.

I thought you already had:

Chicks w/ successful eating disorders completely turn me on. By successful, I mean they're so good at it they've lost the enamel on their teeth and their hair is falling out in clumps. The thought of physically breaking a girl in half does it for me. This is why I wish cunts like Tony Soprano's daughter would shut their fucking mouths. There's nothing worse than a reformed bulimic.

http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/sh...0&postcount=19

bilmore · 10-01-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Still... P. keeps PM'ing telling me its time to move on. Like the Elves in the Ring movies.

You need a less manly avatar. Or a boat.

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-01-2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm worried that if the major media believes Kerry won big, it could cause a shift in momentum.

I said this before on other sites when people had a worry about the spin favoring Bush, and I'll say it again now that people think Kerry did better: Why does anyone care about the spin? The people they're trying to reach now are undecided voters, the people who don't pay much attention to the pundits at all. The candidates got to talk tonight to undecided voters, over the heads of the media. Many more people watched the debate, IMHO, than will hang on what bloviating heads on CNN and FOX say tomorrow. Isn't the only thing that really matters the performance of the candidates, and not the post-debate spin?

SlaveNoMore · 10-01-2004, 01:34 AM

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Hank Chinaski
see, I'm pretty sure I'm ignored. either from the ignore list or people just have stopped reading and scroll by. i mean i said this, I said many other things people second w/o realizing they are seconding. I may move to Tucker Max with P. after all.

Allergy Time

Episode Number 64
First Aired March 31, 1966
Writer Budd Grossman

Director Jack Arnold

Synopsis

The Skipper begins to itch and sneeze whenever he is around Gilligan. Soon all of the Castaways appear to be allergic to him. The Professor develops a vaccine, but it doesn't seem to work and Gilligan feels all alone.

sgtclub · 10-01-2004, 01:35 AM

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In answer to a question from Lehrer (in tonight's debate) Kerry - as if to PROVE his LONGTIME foreign policy experience, and his superior foreign policy knowledge - recounted how he had (with former Senator Smith (R-NH)) gone down into the bowels of the former KGB under TREBLINKA SQUARE.

ONE PROBLEM: Treblinka was the name of a NAZI EXTERMINATION CAMP.

The KGB was on Lubyankaya Square.

How could a presidential candidate - with Jewish heritage - confuse the name of a DEATH CAMP WITH ANYTHING ELSE!?!?!?!?!?

Instead of showing off his experience and knowledge, this exposes Kerry as a shameless ignorant fraud.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/20...ka-square.html

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2004, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Does anybody know if the undecideds are equally divided among the states?

This President has not tried to approach the undecided in a positive way. I will do better.

bilmore · 10-01-2004, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Isn't the only thing that really matters the performance of the candidates, and not the post-debate spin?

Actually, in the interests of role consistency, I will say that my take is exactly opposite yours. Gore lost the spin, and won the debate.

The undecideds don't watch debates. They'll decide when they have to, somewhere around November 1. They'll watch the news that night. Someone will say "X won the debate". They will then vote for X.

sgtclub · 10-01-2004, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I said this before on other sites when people had a worry about the spin favoring Bush, and I'll say it again now that people think Kerry did better: Why does anyone care about the spin? The people they're trying to reach now are undecided voters, the people who don't pay much attention to the pundits at all. The candidates got to talk tonight to undecided voters, over the heads of the media. Many more people watched the debate, IMHO, than will hang on what bloviating heads on CNN and FOX say tomorrow. Isn't the only thing that really matters the performance of the candidates, and not the post-debate spin?

Because if the press is positive, it results in momentum, which reinvigorates the candidate. Kerry has been down for weeks and has lost some energy and confidence. This, I think, will bring him back to life.