Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
"What? No WMDs here, either? Okay, I meant Saudi Arabia. No? How about Yemen. Oops. Iran?"

Nope. They're in Syria.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
You seem to suggest that the government provides the conditions necessary for me to make money. At the 50,000 foot level, you are probably correct, in that we need a stable society and methods of enforcement to allow the economy to function properly. But at a lower level, I disagree with that premise. In most of the deals I'm involved in, the law plays a very minor roll and the parties agree to opt-out of the system, and choose private arbitration instead. So, yes, I could make the salary I'm making without a government. There would still need to be an enforcement mechanism, but the private courts are perfectly able to provide this, so long as they are backed by the threat of the gun.

You seem to think the inclusion of an arbitration provision means the parties are "opting out" of the law. Any litigator can tell you you're seriously mistaken. Putting aside Sidd's incisive comments regarding the enforceability of ADR outcomes, dispute resolution in arbitration relies on the existence of a well-developed body of substantive law that was developed in government courts. That is what makes it The Law. Arbitration works well when the substantive law is highly developed and not much in dispute, such as commercial contracts. Would arbitration work as a form of dispute resolution with inherent authority where the law is a little more fuzzy, like child custody proceedings, or the criminal law? Hardly.

The state is a human community that successfully claims a monopoly over the legitimate use of physical force within a given territory. You propose to live in a world where that monopoly is subjected to competition? We have a name for those places: the Third World. Move there if you dare.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Accord. the whole world can now agree that the correct answer is "not there now." Thank you, President Bush, and to a lesser extent, Sens. Kerry and Edwards for supporting the invasions, at least at first.

So let's assume that we did know they were in Iraq and we knew where they were and who had them. Now we don't know where they are or who has them. How has this made the world safer?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
people have jobs there, just not lawyer jobs. I'm 6' 11." I would have a job in a lawless society. See Goliath.

I have shapely breasts, nice abs and ass, and a cute face. I would have a job as a prostitute.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
Nope. They're in Syria.

You've been hitting the yellowflake again.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
We have a name for those places: the Third World. Move there if you dare.

If the tax rate were low enough, I am guessing that Club would. The problem is that there are still taxes in the third world, only they are called bribes.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You've been hitting the yellowflake again.

Stop you are making me hungry.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So let's assume that we did know they were in Iraq and we knew where they were and who had them. Now we don't know where they are or who has them. How has this made the world safer?

Putting aside for a moment the fact that they are in Syria and we know it, it makes the US safer because the terrorists are all in Iraq now and the US has been free of terrorist attacks. Israel, however, may be fucked but that is a different issue.

[Not Me]

The only consolation if Kerry gets elected will be all the fun we will have watching Teresa embarass him.

• Remember how Sen. Clinton once said she could have avoided controversy by staying home and baking cookies? Heinz Kerry has gotten into a squabble with Family Circle magazine over just that: cookies.
  
  Every four years since 1992, the magazine holds a candidate wives' cookie contest — bake their cookies and vote for your favorite.
  
  It was Laura Bush's oatmeal chocolate chunk vs. Teresa Heinz Kerry's pumpkin spice — but last week Mrs. Kerry suddenly raged that dirty tricks were afoot by her own staff to make her look bad with a "nasty" recipe.
  
  She accused ex-press secretary Christine Anderson of submitting a phony recipe: "Somebody at my office gave that recipe out and in fact I think somebody really made it on purpose to give a nasty recipe."
  
  No wonder a New York convention delegate warned: "They've got to get her under control."

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/28359.htm

[Not Me]

I love this Cookiegate story. I think it is just hilarious that the first recipe she submitted didn't work and now she is accusing her ex-press secretary of submitting a nasty recipe on purpose. Does anyone believe this woman has ever baked a cookie in her life?

• Ever since voters began telling Teresa Heinz Kerry that they didn't think much of the pumpkin spice cookie recipe her office had submitted to Family Circle's presidential cookie bake-off, an aide said, Mrs. Heinz Kerry, the wife of the about-to-be Democratic nominee, has been thinking how she could tell America the truth: the recipe isn't hers.
  
  In an interview on National Public Radio that was broadcast yesterday, the cookies came up in conversation and in the direct, unvarnished style that people have come to expect, Mrs. Heinz Kerry said: "Somebody at my office gave that recipe out and, in fact, I think somebody really made it on purpose to give a nasty recipe. I never made pumpkin cookies; I don't like pumpkin spice cookies."
  
  Mrs. Heinz Kerry had originally submitted a recipe called Yummy Wonders, but, according to Family Circle, its test kitchen said the recipe did not work. When the magazine called her press office and asked if there had been a mistake, the press office sent the pumpkin cookie recipe without consulting her, said her press secretary, Marla Romash.
  
  Christine Anderson, Mrs. Heinz Kerry's press secretary at the time the recipe was submitted but who now works elsewhere in the Kerry campaign, would not comment and referred all calls to Ms. Romash.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/28/po...28cookies.html

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So let's assume that we did know they were in Iraq and we knew where they were and who had them. Now we don't know where they are or who has them. How has this made the world safer?

Do you really think we're going to provide you guys with any information anymore? Earlier one of your guys was quoting al Jazeera bloggers as if they credible and reliable sources. You have clearly crossed a line.

[Effete Liberal Snob]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
"Where's the WMD?"

Speaking of WMD, did I ever mention that I once served on a swift boat in Vietnam?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

• Consumer advocate Ralph Nader's quixotic presidential campaign says it submitted about 5,400 signatures to get on the Michigan ballot, far short of the required number of 30,000. Luckily for him, approximately 43,000 signatures were filed by Michigan Republicans on his behalf, more than meeting the requirement.

ABC News

The fun continues with Bill Maher and Michael Moore literally begging Nader to drop out of the race on Maher's "Realtime" show this past weekend.



Nader didn't really have any answers to their arguments, other than to insist that his campaign will draw more GOPers than Dems (and obviously Michigan GOPers agree).

Episode was also fun to watch the guest GOP congressman defend the 7 minutes of reading My Little Goat.

Gattigap

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Nader didn't really have any answers to their arguments, other than to insist that his campaign will draw more GOPers than Dems (and obviously Michigan GOPers agree).
Gattigap

what about Mi. GOP?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Gattigap
The fun continues with Bill Maher and Michael Moore literally begging Nader to drop out of the race on Maher's "Realtime" show this past weekend.

I wish I lived in a swing state so I could help to get Nader on the ballot. I helped to get him on the California ballot (twice in fact) but I don't think that he will matter in this state.