Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Penske & Co. were a figment of our imaginations...

But such well-dressed figments . . .

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
Like I said before, the fun is back in politics.

(Four years of one-sided "liar, stoopid, monkeyface, evil, Hitler" may be fun for one side. Now, finally, it's fun for us, too. The idea of any Dem decrying the "politics of personal destruction" is just such a hoot.)

8 years of "rapist, murderer" weren't enough for you?

I'm listening to the callers on CNN right now. It is hilarious. Where are there screeners? I've heard all manners of stoners, wingnuts, and some chick that said something about somebody wanting her to show her tits (honestly!). Good stuff.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
8 years of "rapist, murderer" weren't enough for you?

I'm listening to the callers on CNN right now. It is hilarious. Where are there screeners? I've heard all manners of stoners, wingnuts, and some chick that said something about somebody wanting her to show her tits (honestly!). Good stuff.

Juanita would beg to differ with you.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
.... and would have won Florida if the ballots captured people's preferences, I think my point stands and we are actually in agreement.

To paraphrase Reagan, "There you go again"

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Oh, I don't have NEARLY enough time to go there.

I was referring only to all of the Jews in West Palm Beach who voted for Buchanan, without getting into all of the recounted chad, etc.

Originally posted by Slave "Bernie" NoMore
To paraphrase Reagan, "There you go again"

Hint: When discussing matters of factual and historical accuracy, best not to identifying too closely with Reagan, notwithstanding his vivid recollections of liberating concentration camps.

[SlaveNoMore]

Hank Chinaski
Ty. You are released from your bet. SS, if you haven't paid yet, you don't need to.

They aren't reading. Just scrolling.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I was referring only to all of the Jews in West Palm Beach who voted for Buchanan, without getting into all of the recounted chad, etc.

Well, I still think Chad should have won.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Juanita would beg to differ with you.

She doesn't like her own tits? That's so sad.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Penske & Co. were a figment of our imaginations...

I would hope I could imagine more pleasant things....

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
From instapundit

quote:Is anyone saying the obvious? This foreign policy debate was all about putting Bush on the defensive. Why no attention to Kerry's 20 year Senate record of votes and statements on foreign policy, military and intell issues?! All I heard from Lehrer the entire evening was one sorta, kinda follow-up question on Kerry's post Viet Nam protest.

Don't you think that current issues may somehow be more relevant in the current debate? And do you really, really want to get into past issues? Your side is better off leaving it to the swifties rather than in a debate.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Don't you think that current issues may somehow be more relevant in the current debate? And do you really, really want to get into past issues? Your side is better off leaving it to the swifties rather than in a debate.

The current issue is, who is more qualified to be president. So, yes, Kerry's twenty years of inaction, waffling, and covering on all issues except for cutting military funds and raising taxes is decidedly relevant. As for Bush's past issues, I think we're quite happy to go there. At least there's a "there" there to go to.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Your side is better off leaving it to the swifties rather than in a debate.

I heart the swifties. If I met one IRL, I would give him one free grope.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
The current issue is, who is more qualified to be president. So, yes, Kerry's twenty years of inaction, waffling, and covering on all issues except for cutting military funds and raising taxes is decidedly relevant. As for Bush's past issues, I think we're quite happy to go there. At least there's a "there" there to go to.

The person who got you lost is not the person you trust to get you unlost. A 20-year voting record is an easy thing to pore over. Hell, W tried to bring it up with the $87 MM troop funding thing (you remember, where W threatened the veto because he feels his tax cuts are more important than the lives of soldiers he put into danger). The inaction and waffling are manufactured issues and you know it.

We face important issues and the debate is only 90 minutes. I didn't see W's past brought up at all, political or otherwise, except to the extent that his executive decisions are currently those that are of grave concern to all of us. Spin til you're dizzy, but the questions were legitimate.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
The person who got you lost is not the person you trust to get you unlost. A 20-year voting record is an easy thing to pore over. Hell, W tried to bring it up with the $87 MM troop funding thing (you remember, where W threatened the veto because he feels his tax cuts are more important than the lives of soldiers he put into danger). The inaction and waffling are manufactured issues and you know it.

We face important issues and the debate is only 90 minutes. I didn't see W's past brought up at all, political or otherwise, except to the extent that his executive decisions are currently those that are of grave concern to all of us. Spin til you're dizzy, but the questions were legitimate.

Then what are we supposed to judge Kerry on? What he says? I'd need a scorecard.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Then what are we supposed to judge Kerry on? What he says? I'd need a scorecard.

It was a debate. Yes, you have to listen. Sometimes that involves turning down foxnews.