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05-22-2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by baltassoc
"People can speak or learn any language they like, but if they want to interface with anything paid for by tax dollars it has to be English. "
Implicit in this statement is that it is a waste of tax dollars to use anything but English. Implicit in that statement is the idea that only English speakers have a right to have a say in the proper use of tax dollars.
Why?
And I'll remind you that the "we were here first" argument is incorrect, at least with regard to California (and Texas).
My point with the bitching issue is that one must be careful what one demands - the same people who insist that there can only be one language for the govenrment are likely to regret that choice when the future majority of the country decides they were correct about the one language thing,* but decides to change the language.
* As to the correctness of the one language thing in general, I'd point out that many countries have multiple official languages, and for much the same reason (combinations of lands where the populations speak another language - and this is this case here: Spanish is so widely kept in the US because there has always been a large geographically concentrated base of Spanish speakers in certain parts of the country who became citizens without the necessity of learning English - they were there when the territory they lived in became part of the US. Obviously, not all or even most Spanish speakers are decendants of these original settlers, but their presence has created a continuity of community in the Southwest especially, with some migration to oher areas).
Switzerland has four official languages, one of which is spoken by less than 70,000 worldwide.
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If you moved to Mexico not only would you have to learn spanish, you wouldn't be able to get a job.......for reasons beyond your professional shortcomings.
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/14635383.htm
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05-22-2006, 11:44 AM
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You know, in another forum where I'm having the exact same argument, everyone keeps on bringing up other parts of the world and how they do things as an excuse as to how we should do hings.
We, in the United States, are better than everywhere else in the whole wide world. We don't need to look anywhere else, because we've done just fine for 230 years figuring this stuff out on our own.
The fucking French have a complex over the fact that theirs isn't the lingua franca anymore. Is theirs the culture you really want to emulate?
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05-22-2006, 12:03 PM
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Does it surprise anyone that this guy was from New Orleans?
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05-22-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
His girlfriend reads the board and she's Mexican and he doesn't mind kissing ass.
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Isn't that a topic for a different Board?
:drool:
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05-24-2006, 11:22 AM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Hertzberg writing on the crackpot letter from Iran and the opportunity it would have presented to an administration capable of articulating what it is that makes us different from the mullahs.
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One can imagine a letter from an American President. It would go beyond nuclear warnings to ask a few questions of its own—questions about the Iranian regime’s suppression of freedom of expression, routine use of torture, domination by unelected clerics, and persecution of ethnic and religious minorities. It would refute, in detail, Ahmadinejad’s ugly fantasies about the Holocaust and 9/11, which are common currency among parts of the Muslim public.
Much of Ahmadinejad’s letter is devoted to religious hectoring, culminating in an appeal to Bush’s faith. The Iranian President writes that he has “been told that Your Excellency follows the teachings of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) and believes in the divine promise of the rule of the righteous on Earth.” One can imagine an American President responding that he believes in the rule of the people, righteous and unrighteous alike, exercised through democratic institutions. It’s a little harder to imagine that response from this particular American President. But one can dream.
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Full text.
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05-24-2006, 11:26 AM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
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Originally posted by ironweed
Hertzberg writing on the crackpot letter from Iran and the opportunity it would have presented to an administration capable of articulating what it is that makes us different from the mullahs.
Full text.
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So now that OBL has exonerated Mousawwi(sp) do you think we should let him go?
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05-24-2006, 11:30 AM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
So now that OBL has exonerated Mousawwi(sp) do you think we should let him go?
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I think it's analogous to the Graham Sankey confession scenario. Sankey should go to Bulgaria, OBL should come here and testify.
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05-24-2006, 12:13 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by ironweed
I think it's analogous to the Graham Sankey confession scenario. Sankey should go to Bulgaria, OBL should come here and testify.
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Not the same- everyone agrees a UK football fan shoould be subject to indefinite incarceration- surely he's guilty of something. but you feel the same should not be true for terrrorists Jihadis.
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05-24-2006, 12:36 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Not the same- everyone agrees a UK football fan shoould be subject to indefinite incarceration- surely he's guilty of something. but you feel the same should not be true for terrrorists Jihadis.
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Yeah, they should all be turned loose immediately and given one meelyon dollars and tenured jobs teaching pre-school.
This is poor, even for you - maybe you should have posted this with your Wank McBumsky sock? It's a good thing the quality czar never ever looks at this board.
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05-24-2006, 12:47 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by ironweed
Yeah, they should all be turned loose immediately and given one meelyon dollars and tenured jobs teaching pre-school.
This is poor, even for you - maybe you should have posted this with your Wank McBumsky sock? It's a good thing the quality czar never ever looks at this board.
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i don't sock.
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05-24-2006, 02:52 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by ironweed
I think it's analogous to the Graham Sankey confession scenario. Sankey should go to Bulgaria, OBL should come here and testify.
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Not the same- everyone agrees a UK football fan shoould be subject to indefinite incarceration- surely he's guilty of something. but you feel the same should not be true for terrrorists Jihadis.
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05-24-2006, 02:54 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
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Last edited by Wank McBumsky; 05-24-2006 at 03:06 PM..
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05-24-2006, 06:15 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by ironweed
Yeah, they should all be turned loose immediately and given one meelyon dollars and tenured jobs teaching pre-school.
This is poor, even for you - maybe you should have posted this with your Wank McBumsky sock? It's a good thing the quality czar never ever looks at this board.
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I come over here for the first time in, like, forever to see what is going on with the Wank McBumsky Newber, and I see that you are still talking about me. I have to admit that I am a bit flattered, although I find it a bit creepy.
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05-24-2006, 06:30 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I come over here for the first time in, like, forever to see what is going on with the Wank McBumsky Newber, and I see that you are still talking about me. I have to admit that I am a bit flattered, although I find it a bit creepy.
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i think it's just Ironsped. and if you read his posts more regularly I think you'd come to realize the thoughts and images conveyed by almost all his posts are kind of creepy.
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05-24-2006, 07:44 PM
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It's a war of ideas. Oh, fuck.
Quote:
Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I come over here for the first time in, like, forever to see what is going on with the Wank McBumsky Newber, and I see that you are still talking about me. I have to admit that I am a bit flattered, although I find it a bit creepy.
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Whats creepy about Ironsped is even worse that he cited my name before i even posted, like he can see the future. , but not in a good way. today Hil was on the news and they asked her about her presidential campaign, and she said "the future is what the future is." she doesnt' know Weed.
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