Still Hating America.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Apparently, Amanda Marcotte's great sin was using the word "Christofascist" as a take off on the ever-popular Islamofascist. She's prettty clearly vulgar and has little or no couth, but I don't quite get the anti-Catholic rant. If we invited her to post here, she'd be right at home.

• Ms. Marcotte wrote in December that the Roman Catholic Church’s opposition to the use of contraception forced women “to bear more tithing Catholics.” In another posting last year, she used vulgar language to describe the church doctrine of the virgin birth of Jesus.

NYT

I'm not sure that either of these things make her anti-Catholic, but it's easier to see where the charge is coming from than it is with McEwan.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Apparently, Amanda Marcotte's great sin was using the word "Christofascist" as a take off on the ever-popular Islamofascist. She's prettty clearly vulgar and has little or no couth, but I don't quite get the anti-Catholic rant. If we invited her to post here, she'd be right at home.

Well and graphically comparing the Holy Spirit to ejaculate didn't really win her any favors, either. Though to be fair, if Mary was knocked up because she was infused by the Holy Spirit, the comparison wasn't exactly inapt.

And lord knows I would have said the same damned thing about the classes she was criticizing. Of course, the smear campaign was focused on the jizz of God rather than the substance of her argument, so really everyone comes out looking bad.

And fuck Bill Donahue. If I'm going to focus on catholic wrongness, it's going to be the real catholics based out of Rome, not some propagandist from the Heritage Foundation.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Apparently, Amanda Marcotte's great sin was using the word "Christofascist" as a take off on the ever-popular Islamofascist. She's prettty clearly vulgar and has little or no couth, but I don't quite get the anti-Catholic rant. If we invited her to post here, she'd be right at home.

I like her. A fundie's a fundie. Degenerate minds that'd shut off their rational sides in favor of blind belief are birds of a feather. That one kills makes it more vile, but the existence of the non-violent one contributes to an environment which encourages the violent to exist.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If Melissa McEwan ever wrote anything "anti-Catholic," a rant or otherwise, I've never seen it (and neither has this guy). But why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

Originally posted by Adder
Yes, but only Spanky purports to actually be involved in politics. And he is always right about everything, so no problem there.

I appreciate the fact that you guys confused a George Will post with my writing, but you and Ty need to bring this up with George.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
It's only Bush's fault to the extent he went in. The English should have learned from the Ottomans. The Russians should have learned from the English. And we should have learned from the Russians.

Nobody ever wins in Afghanistan. They just keep losing until they decide the fight is no longer worth the price. Iraq was just plain stupid to begin with.

Define "win." You really think we should have left the Taliban in charge of the whole country? Wow- an adherent to the Clinton doctrine. I'm taking back my proxy.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by taxwonk
It's only Bush's fault to the extent he went in. The English should have learned from the Ottomans. The Russians should have learned from the English. And we should have learned from the Russians.

Nobody ever wins in Afghanistan. They just keep losing until they decide the fight is no longer worth the price. Iraq was just plain stupid to begin with.

When were the Ottoman's in Afghanistan? Did they get that far in the sixteenth century? Weren't the Safivids (sp) in the way? The extent of the Ottoman empire back then has alway been fuzzy in my mind. Or maybe you were referring the Ottomans in Iraq and not in Afghanistan?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
I appreciate the fact that you guys confused a George Will post with my writing, but you and Ty need to bring this up with George.

I can't speak for Adder, but maybe the confusion was yours, and not everything is about you.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Apparently, Amanda Marcotte's great sin was using the word "Christofascist" as a take off on the ever-popular Islamofascist. She's prettty clearly vulgar and has little or no couth, but I don't quite get the anti-Catholic rant. If we invited her to post here, she'd be right at home.

Is Christofacist more vulgar than Islamofacist?

(BTW, I thought that Marcotte had a very good point about the sexism of the whole thing in her article on it at Salon. But then I'm biased towards her. She's a liberal Texas blogger and I've been reading her for years before she took over Ezra Kline's spot over at Pandagon.)

[Adder]

Originally posted by Spanky
I appreciate the fact that you guys confused a George Will post with my writing, but you and Ty need to bring this up with George.

Huh? G3 said that these two bloggers would fit in around here. And I said, yeah, but none of us are really involved in politics, except, purportedly, you.

How does that involve me confusing you with George Will?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Adder
Huh? G3 said that these two bloggers would fit in around here. And I said, yeah, but none of us are really involved in politics, except, purportedly, you.

How does that involve me confusing you with George Will?

That was the point of hiring bloggers. Neither one of them were involved with politics before they joined the Edwards campaign. They were just bloggers. It's not like they had any more special insight than any other ordinary person. They just write well and have large audiences. They're particularly interesting because they're women in a largely men dominated arena, but they didn't have any special access or knowledge to anything political outside of the blogosphere. Pandagon certainly is one of the larger liberal blogs out there, but it's no Kos or Atrios. It's more of a Crooked Timber.

ETA: and quite honestly, their political naivete is probably what most got them into trouble. They should have been prepared for the attacks, or at least had a ready answer for them. Frankly, I would have thrown that asinine WRONG leaflet back in the faces of the people attacking them, and redrawn the issue, but the attacks were pretty vicious. Marcotte got death threats from some good catholics.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
That was the point of hiring bloggers. Neither one of them were involved with politics before they joined the Edwards campaign. They were just bloggers. It's not like they had any more special insight than any other ordinary person. They just write well and have large audiences. They're particularly interesting because they're women in a largely men dominated arena, but they didn't have any special access or knowledge to anything political outside of the blogosphere. Pandagon certainly is one of the larger liberal blogs out there, but it's no Kos or Atrios. It's more of a Crooked Timber.

Yeah, my only point (if you want to call it that) was that none of us are likely to get fired from our political blogs for posting someone controversial here (I will not comment on our non-political jobs).

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
Huh? G3 said that these two bloggers would fit in around here. And I said, yeah, but none of us are really involved in politics, except, purportedly, you.

How does that involve me confusing you with George Will?

I guess I shouldn't smoke crack in the morning. Now I am really confused.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
That was the point of hiring bloggers. Neither one of them were involved with politics before they joined the Edwards campaign. They were just bloggers. It's not like they had any more special insight than any other ordinary person. They just write well and have large audiences. They're particularly interesting because they're women in a largely men dominated arena, but they didn't have any special access or knowledge to anything political outside of the blogosphere. Pandagon certainly is one of the larger liberal blogs out there, but it's no Kos or Atrios. It's more of a Crooked Timber.

ETA: and quite honestly, their political naivete is probably what most got them into trouble. They should have been prepared for the attacks, or at least had a ready answer for them. Frankly, I would have thrown that asinine WRONG leaflet back in the faces of the people attacking them, and redrawn the issue, but the attacks were pretty vicious. Marcotte got death threats from some good catholics.

What is going to happen with the Mass. universal health care plan? Is it going to work? Is it really going to cover everyone? When is it going to kick in? Is it going to help or hurt the Mormon in his bid for the White House?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Define "win." You really think we should have left the Taliban in charge of the whole country? Wow- an adherent to the Clinton doctrine. I'm taking back my proxy.

I'm not suggesting that. I think we should have bankrolled the Northern Alliance or some coalition friendlier to the notion of preserving human life to the point where they could have taken down the Taliban.

If there was any lesson from Vietnam it was that you don't go in where you can't win. If the opposition is willing to fight to the last man standing, you need to motivate the people who live there to be willing to fight back.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Well and graphically comparing the Holy Spirit to ejaculate didn't really win her any favors, either. Though to be fair, if Mary was knocked up because she was infused by the Holy Spirit, the comparison wasn't exactly inapt.

And lord knows I would have said the same damned thing about the classes she was criticizing. Of course, the smear campaign was focused on the jizz of God rather than the substance of her argument, so really everyone comes out looking bad.

And fuck Bill Donahue. If I'm going to focus on catholic wrongness, it's going to be the real catholics based out of Rome, not some propagandist from the Heritage Foundation.

I don't understand how that one is anti-Catholic (any more than Christo-fascist, since there are plenty of Christofascist baptists and Lutherans out there).