Politics: J'accuse! - Page 85

Sidd Finch · 04-13-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For Sidd's sake....

I AGREE WITH YOU.

(although we probably disagree on the "respects")

Whiff. You probably are only criticizing the Dem (or newly Dem) members of the NRA.

C'mon. Tell us Not Me is full of shit. You can do it, Slave.

Not Me · 04-13-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
She does not seem to be carrying an NRA card. And if she were, you would be able tell.

Just carrying a gun doesn't make you an NRA devotee.

How about her? She is decent looking.

http://www.womenhunters.com/bio-linda-burch.html

Gattigap · 04-13-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
How about her? She is decent looking.

http://www.womenhunters.com/bio-linda-burch.html

The camo obscures the rack. I thought you'd need to see that and opine about implants before drawing any conclusions.

Keep trying though. The NRA has 3million+ members. I'm sure some are hot.

Sexual Harassment Panda · 04-13-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
How about her? She is decent looking.

http://www.womenhunters.com/bio-linda-burch.html

I missed the memo that announced the merger of the FB and the PB. Could somebody please resend it to me? Thanks.

Tyrone Slothrop · 04-13-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I missed the memo that announced the merger of the FB and the PB. Could somebody please resend it to me? Thanks.

Whiff.

Not Me · 04-13-2004, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Keep trying though. The NRA has 3million+ members. I'm sure some are hot.

The one holding the dead deer head in this NRA brochure is kind of cute:

http://www.nrahq.org/women/wothunts.pdf

Gattigap · 04-13-2004, 03:27 PM

The WaPo's David Ignatius has some good practical advice for the Bush Administration as a way to keep the Iraqi populace from buying into Sadr's violence, and make them feel that the US and its allies are bringing a better life, including:

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• Provide electricity everywhere, 24 hours a day, by the scheduled handover of sovereignty. If it takes an airlift of C-17s carrying generators, do it; if it means expensive temporary fixes, do it. The lack of electric power has been a symbol of U.S. failure in Iraq; make reliable electricity a symbol of success.

• Speed up the $18 billion in reconstruction spending the United States promised in January. That effort was supposed to deliver 50,000 new jobs by June 30. Iraqis need to see action, now.

• Put more money on the streets quickly, through crash public works projects. The coalition cleaned up Baghdad last summer by paying thousands of kids a few dollars a day to sweep streets. Do it again. Put more money into the hands of local political, tribal and religious leaders. Some of it will be wasted, but in a good cause.

All good advice. I've been baffled by the announced difficulties in getting the electricity going. I know that the reasons mentioned have been (a) sabotage, and (b) a system that was decrepit to start with, and don't doubt that there's some truth to both of these, but does anyone know more about why we haven't been throwing more resources and people at this? Establishing a constant electricity supply to get through a desert summer, even at significant cost, seems like a no-brainer.

SlaveNoMore · 04-13-2004, 03:30 PM

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Sexual Harassment Panda
I missed the memo that announced the merger of the FB and the PB. Could somebody please resend it to me? Thanks.

It was distributed on a need to know basis.

In other political news, Rebecca Romijn finally woke up from the Rohypnol and decided to break up with John Stamos

Not Me · 04-13-2004, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
In other political news, Rebecca Romijn finally woke up from the Rohypnol and decided to break up with John Stamos

Definite implants.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 04-13-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
The camo obscures the rack.

Well, the rack obscures the camo in this case. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Bad_Rich_Chic · 04-13-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
The WaPo's David Ignatius has some good practical advice for the Bush Administration as a way to keep the Iraqi populace from buying into Sadr's violence, and make them feel that the US and its allies are bringing a better life, including:

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All good advice. I've been baffled by the announced difficulties in getting the electricity going. I know that the reasons mentioned have been (a) sabotage, and (b) a system that was decrepit to start with, and don't doubt that there's some truth to both of these, but does anyone know more about why we haven't been throwing more resources and people at this? Establishing a constant electricity supply to get through a desert summer, even at significant cost, seems like a no-brainer.

Most of what I've been reading indicates that Iraq basically can't absorb money any faster. (Now Afghanistan might be a different matter - it seems that 200 asphalting crews driving back and forth around the country would do it a world of good.)

You can't build or repair basic infrastructure just by throwing money at it and exercizing willpower. Flying in gennies is irrelevant if you have no working distribution system, local or national (or functional wiring in homes). Hiring lots of people to build public works doesn't get them built over night, particularly when those people, frankly, need months of training to get to the point where they can adequately build the stuff, or if time evaluating various local situations hasn't been taken to determine what works are needed in what order or to plan and design things appropriately.

The fact that a lot of people perceive that as a US failure doesn't mean it is something the US can fix. Though I don't know why they aren't using it as more of an overt bargaining chip (e.g.: "we have $X for Y projects in your district - have your local council invite us in and help plan and implement the projects and turn over all militants in the area so the contractors, site and workers are safe, and you'll get priority for work to begin involving Z local jobs").

Tyrone Slothrop · 04-13-2004, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Most of what I've been reading indicates that Iraq basically can't absorb money any faster.

If there's nothing else for them to do, we ought to be paying half the people to dig holes and the other half to fill them. We're spending so much money over there that it would have to be cheaper just to bribe everyone to behave.

Not Me · 04-13-2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
You can't build or repair basic infrastructure just by throwing money at it and exercizing willpower.

Same is true about building a public education system in the US but that hasn't stopped the Dems from trying.

Sidd Finch · 04-13-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
Same is true about building a public education system in the US but that hasn't stopped the Dems from trying.

Referring to the No Child Left Behind Act?

Too little too late for you, obviously.

Not Me · 04-13-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
We're spending so much money over there that it would have to be cheaper just to bribe everyone to behave.

Well, first of all, that wouldn't work because some of those who are misbehaving have political and religious agendas that they won't abandon for cash. They are going to have to be dealt with by their own people.

Second, building the infrastructure rather than just handing out cash is necessary for Iraq eventually to become something other than the nightmare it is.