Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Captain
I think someone defending Lochner might also be willing to interpret the contracts clause in a pre-1950s manner. I believe the first decision that made clear the contracts clause was focused on ex post changes was Ogden v. Saunders, after the New Deal changes in outlook.

That would be a better argument if Ogden had been decided in 1937, not 1827

[Captain]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
That would be a better argument if Ogden had been decided in 1937, not 1827

Oh, Shit, you're right.

Now somewhere I know I had a later interpretation of the contracts clause as individual right. Let me look around here...

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Please cite to Helms' rank.

Patron saint.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
You're kidding, right?

No, I've pretty much stopped reading and watching the news of late. Too disgusted with both sides.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by sgtclub
No, I've pretty much stopped reading and watching the news of late. Too disgusted with both sides.

You are wise. I wish to learn as much from you as possible. Will you teach me, Jedi?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dude, that horse is not even a bag of drying bones anymore. Put the whip away - you’re swinging blindly into the air like a retarded child trying to pick an airplane out of the sky with a whiffle bat.

But it is kinda funny you keep beating on that old coot. That you think anyone even pays attention to the historic (and widely, repeatedly self-denounced) racist politics of a nonagenarian from West Virginia shows you lack the basic understanding of politics required to post coherently on the topic.

But you have to understand that this is Penske's way. When he is confronted with an unpleasant fact about a conservative, he tosses out a well-worn shibboleth about a Democrat. In his mind, this cancels out the bad Republican and alleviates his cultural dissonance.

In other words, your analogy to the challenged child swinging blindly at a plane with a whiffle bat is spot on.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Cite please? I stand ready to see the words of Helms that sink to the vile level of Byrd's. Plus Byrd was a Kleagle and a Grand Cyclops in the Klan. Please cite to Helms' rank.

"That child ain't mine."

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
But you have to understand that this is Penske's way. When he is confronted with an unpleasant fact about a conservative, he tosses out a well-worn shibboleth about a Democrat. In his mind, this cancels out the bad Republican and alleviates his cultural dissonance.

In other words, your analogy to the challenged child swinging blindly at a plane with a whiffle bat is spot on.

Nice defence of Byrd's and by association the DNC's racism. I hope they pay you well for distributing the kool aid.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Calling it intellectual is generous. Its not intellectual at all; its political gimickry masked as a valid school of legal thinking. The Right figured out sometime ago that, since the Constitution was old, by necessity, it would not contain many of the rights progressives sought in present day society. The Right figured “Fuck, We can use the Constitution as a sword. But wait... we first have to address our critics who will make the logical argument that the Constitution was meant to adapt to times. The left and middle will offer really strong arguments - I mean, shit... the Founding Fathers were all progressive.” The Right sat down and created of whole cloth, not unlike Intelligent Design, the school of legal thought known as originalism, traditionalism, etc... as a cover to push its political agenda via the judiciary branch.

Radical Islamic fundamentalism, right-wing conservative Americans, it's the same message. Life was better in the Good Old Days. It's all this damn progress and literacy and wimmin's rights that has brought us to the brink of Hell and it's time to turn back the tide before it's too late.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
"That child ain't mine."

Isn't that a Michael Jackson lyric?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Radical Islamic fundamentalism, right-wing conservative Americans, it's the same message. Life was better in the Good Old Days. It's all this damn progress and literacy and wimmin's rights that has brought us to the brink of Hell and it's time to turn back the tide before it's too late.

\

Word. Pre-the income tax.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Nice defence of Byrd's and by association the DNC's racism. I hope they pay you well for distributing the kool aid.

Guilt by association is a ridiculous concept. It displays nothing but ignorance, laziness, and intellectual dishonesty.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Guilt by association is a ridiculous concept. It displays nothing but ignorance, laziness, and intellectual dishonesty.

It goes beyond association. He is the conscience of the party. The conscience is a racist. What does that say about what the party thinks of itself and its message?

Why is so hard to call racism racism? Or a murderer a murderer? Or a perjurer a perjurer? Or a rapist a rapist? Or to acknowledge that committing those acts or indulging in those behaviours is wrong?

When did the moral compass of the Dims go so far astray?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It goes beyond association. He is the conscience of the party. The conscience is a racist. What does that say about what the party thinks of itself and its message?

Why is so hard to call racism racism? Or a murderer a murderer? Or a perjurer a perjurer? Or a rapist a rapist? Or to acknowledge that committing those acts or indulging in those behaviours is wrong?

When did the moral compass of the Dims go so far astray?

I can call a racist a racist and a rapist a rapist. And a murderer a murderer. I acknowledge that all of those are wrong.

If you maintain, as you have consistently that because Byrd is a Democrat and I am a Democrat that makes me a racist, then I can call you an asshole. Because you are acting like an asshole and that is wrong.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It goes beyond association. He is the conscience of the party. The conscience is a racist. What does that say about what the party thinks of itself and its message?

Why is so hard to call racism racism? Or a murderer a murderer? Or a perjurer a perjurer? Or a rapist a rapist? Or to acknowledge that committing those acts or indulging in those behaviours is wrong?

When did the moral compass of the Dims go so far astray?

Jessie Helms is the conscience of conservatives. So is William "the Gambler" Bennett and Pat "Diamond Mine" Robertson. Hypocrites? No, much more - symbols of the once-dignified Republican Party. Shame, shame, shame!