Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
People from Catholic school might tend to stay better friends for the same reason people who did a tour of Nam together may stay close.

Drugs?

TM

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
You have a caste system of friendship?

sounds pretty egalitarian to me: if you can pleasure her, your her bestest. Lose the tongue magic, and

OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
You have a caste system of friendship?

It would seem so.

And of course, I am the bestest of all.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
You have a caste system of friendship?

Well, some of them I consider my friends, and some of them I just consider.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Drugs?

TM

Ever chased the dragon with a nun? Hell, when she's rushing on her run, a nun will get hornier than a mare in springtime. Just beware... there ain't much trimming under that robe...

God, I have to get my wife a nun costume.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
If you have a question for Fringey, you should just pm her. She's there to help. A giver, if you will.

Hi! Yes, I now have an approachable kitten avatar rather than a woman carrying a head on a plate. Of course, that had nothing to do with going on or off any medication.

Search, like, "zoloft" or "wellbutrin" in the fashion thread or, better, on the old board and you will find some nice discussions of various antidepressants.

I typed out a whole discussion and then decided fuck it. Run a search. The only new thing I have to add is that apparently my current doctor seems to be of the opinion that wellbutrin is good for fixing lack of motivation stuff with depression and SSRI is good for fixing the I suck and life sucks part of depression.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Thesis: A person who attended private or Catholic K-12 is likely to identify a person they met there as their closest friend. A person who attended public K-12 is more likely to identify a person they met in college as their closest friend, except if they still live in the town where they grew up.

Related premise: Men generally identify a woman as their closest friend. Women generally identify a woman as their closest friend. Conclusion: women make better friends, probably because they usually smell better.

Childhood: I met the person I consider to be my best friend when we were five. We never went to the same school, but we are still close.

High school: I do not regularly talk to people from high school, though I will run into them socially from time to time.

College: I get e-mails maybe twice a year, and the last time I saw someone from college was probably four or five years ago. I graduated ten years ago this year.

Graduate/law school: Some contact. Some close friends. There's a very close group that is scattered around the country/world that I maintain regular contact with, but they're not a part of my life.

Work: I don't think that there is a single person that I have ever met through work that I would consider a close friend. I do have one of those 'Nam/Catholic School experiences with a group of people from a former job, and one of them is still there while the rest of us got out. We all still keep in touch with her to make sure she's ok, and to get gossip about what's going on there.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Have you taken it upon yourself to help him through these decisions now, as say...a de facto mentor?

TM

Dude, you are like a pit bull on a porkchop with that.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I live 800 miles from "home" but they have this thing.
It's called a telephone.
And my bestest friends use it to call me, usually every day, sometimes 3 and 4 times a day. So I don't get your point.
Yes, I can't go out to dinner with them more than once or twice a year but that doesn't make them not my bestest friends.

Gee, I didn't know there were these teleophone things... Sheesh.

I talk to childhood friends quite often. I just tend to be closer with, have more in common with and have more to talk about with people I actually can see once in a while. Present company excepted, of course.

The whole "So and so got married, had a kid, moved back to town, divorced, such and such teacher retired, some building was torn down" stuff gets old after a while.

Let's put it this way... one of the famous former residents of my hometown memorialized it in song, and not in a flattering way. I tend to agree. It's pretty much a dead end place.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Bestest friends?

Are you, like, you know, serious?

I have some very good friends, I have some medium level friends, and I have some friends I just like to hang out with from time to time. None of them would qualify as a bestest friend. That position is reserved for whomever I am having sex with at any given time.

And she had best be the bestest.

Absolutely. You know the saying men will come and men (or women as the case may be) will go, but girlfriends are forever.

You know the one you can tell ANYTHING to and she won't be judgmental. Will always take your side on anything. Will pick you up from the airport. Be your maid/matron of honor. Will take you to the hospital when your mom or dad is sick or dying and will gladly wait with you and ask nothing in return. Will cry with you. Will take your phone call at any hour of the day.

Yes, I have that bestest friend. I have a few of them and I wouldn't trade them for anything

[notcasesensitive]

I was going to make a snarky comment, but instead I'll just post the picture and leave it to each of you to fill in your own snarky comment.*



* in order to help you with your snarky thoughts, I will note that this photo was taken in Malibu...

[SlaveNoMore]

sebastian_dangerfield
Its different. Hazing is pure silliness. Catholicism as practiced by the parochial idiots who run those schools is geared toward warping the mind and fostering blind obedience.

JAMA should conduct a scientific study to see which of the two - fraternity hazing or catholic education - causes higher incidents of alcoholism.

My money is on the latter.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I was going to make a snarky comment, but instead I'll just post the picture and leave it to each of you to fill in your own snarky comment.*



* in order to help you with your snarky thoughts, I will note that this photo was taken in Malibu...

Yes, those are the momma UGGS or some such thing. I saw her wearing them with (gasp) satin low-rise pants.
Apparently they're her only shoes.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I haven't found any of this to be true. Not even a little bit.

Want to clue us in on whether you find the opposites to be true, or are you saying there's no correlation at all?

It has been my observation especially that women attending same-sex high schools remain friends for life disproportionately to those attending other schools.* I think public schools have more diverse populations. My wife, for example, had only three or so people in her public H.S. who were her intellectual equals and who challenged her in positive ways. She's still friendly with one of them; the others, and the rest of her school, are all in the "I haven't though of him in fifteen years" file. This is not my sole basis for the thesis, but I'll guess it's consonant with the experiences of other high-achieving people on this board. Catholic and private schools are more like Hogwart's --- you often have a circle of friends that includes the smart one, the athletic one, the dim-but-loyal one, etc.**

My anecdotal evidence for all-male schooling is slightly weaker, but I think that's because male-male friendship is less often of the get-together-regularly-and-discuss-feelings-and-life-developments variety. Friendships between women have very subtle nuances, but it's very evidence of friendships between men that is subtle. Women are likely to look at many male friendships and say "that's not really a friendship" because male friendships can be a fallow field much longer, IMHO. I can pick up the phone and have a connection with someone I haven't seen in ten years. An observant woman might say I'm re-establishing the friendship; I don't see it that way.***

In a special clue to TM and NFH, you can't disprove an observation based on anecdotal evidence by merely by offering contrary anecdotal evidence, when the thesis was carefully qualified by the words "generally" or "usually," as mine was. I was hoping the post would spark some discussion more extensive than "You're dead wrong. Period." I don't need to be right, but I'd rather be proved wrong than merely told so.

*It's probably the pillow fights and oral pleasuring.

**I'm sure your lunch table at school had this, too. Are you still friends with the dim-but-loyal one? I am.

***Like all statements beginning with "men" or "women," this is not intended to be a grand unifying theory applicable to all.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Absolutely. You know the saying men will come and men (or women as the case may be) will go, but girlfriends are forever.
...
Yes, I have that bestest friend. I have a few of them and I wouldn't trade them for anything

Oh good God Almighty. I think I might throw up.