Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[sgtclub]

The following statement from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is in response to an article appearing in the morning edition of the Boston Globe (“Veteran Retracts Criticism of Kerry”) which implies that one Vietnam Veteran wishes to retract an affidavit he signed regarding John Kerry’s actions during and after Kerry’s time in Vietnam. The signed affidavit can be seen below.
"Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today’s edition of the Boston Globe by Mike Kranish as extremely inaccurate and highly misstating his actual views. He reaffirms his statement in the current advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Captain Elliott reaffirms his affidavit [see below] in support of that advertisement, and he reaffirms his request that the ad be played.

“Additional documentation will follow. “The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102 of Mr. Kranish’s own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around.

“Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 supporters who are revealing first hand, eyewitness accounts of numerous incidents concerning John Kerry’s military service record. The organization will continue to discuss much of what John Kerry has reported as fact concerning his four-month tour of duty in Vietnam.”

http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesui...unfit_aff.html

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Estate tax: Why is this supported as much (if not more) by people who are unlikely ever to be subject ot it? What's more, the most realisitic proposals would likely simply raise the limits of the exemption. That is, lower the rates to zero for a larger group of people, while leaving the higher rate on the rich.

K-gains: See the rest of my post--it's an effort to increase incentives to save. What's more, the k-gains rate for low-income people is lower than for high-income people.

It's popular with many people who will never be subject to it because they believe the lies told to them by the Republicans who are in favor of its repeal.

As for the capital gains rate being an incentive to save, that's a lad of horseshit. People spend and/or save based upon many things; their tax rate isn't one of them. If you honestly believe that it's better to forgo 61 cents of gain to avoid 39 cents of tax, you are a total idiot. If that is really a valid point, then what we need is an excise tax on stupidity.

And to say that the capital gains rate is lower for people who live from paycheck to paycheck than it is for trust fund babies is, well, another strong talking point in favor of an excise tax on stupidity.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by taxwonk
If that is really a valid point, then what we need is an excise tax on stupidity.

I would be in favor of this, but fear that it would discourage activity on this board.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You know for the party which supposedly is about sex and partying, you sure got some ugly mother fuckers. No offense.

Ahem. Are you suggesting that Robert Rubin is anything but absolutely dreamy? 'Cuz if you are, I'm gonna have to get medieval on your buttocks.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
As for the capital gains rate being an incentive to save, that's a lad of horseshit. People spend and/or save based upon many things; their tax rate isn't one of them. If you honestly believe that it's better to forgo 61 cents of gain to avoid 39 cents of tax, you are a total idiot. If that is really a valid point, then what we need is an excise tax on stupidity.

Capital gains tend to be for stock market profits right? I now the Dems live in a pretty world where everything is easy for people with money, but you will at least admit there is some risk to the market, won't you? There is a reward which is the profit. The more the Gov't takes of the profit, the less the incentive to take the risk. Wonk, I like you, but the next time you say mean things we combat.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by dtb
Ahem. Are you suggesting that Robert Rubin is anything but absolutely dreamy? 'Cuz if you are, I'm gonna have to get medieval on your buttocks.

oh....dtb how nice, but we all know you've just said that to make Sidd feel better about himself.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Intriguing. Almost exactly the same rate (5.4%) in the fourth year of Clinton's term.

An interesting comparison. How do the job numbers compare?

I liked the quote from Kerry's economic advisor today. "This might be Bush's best year [for the economy], but it would have been Clinton's worst."

S_A_M

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Cheney flip-flops again. Man, that psychopath will say anything to get re-elected.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Capital gains tend to be for stock market profits right? I now the Dems live in a pretty world where everything is easy for people with money, but you will at least admit there is some risk to the market, won't you? There is a reward which is the profit. The more the Gov't takes of the profit, the less the incentive to take the risk. Wonk, I like you, but the next time you say mean things we combat.

You guys are always talking about how great markets are. Think of the capital gains tax as the best way for the government to invest in the stock market. If the underlying investment doesn't pay out, the government loses nothing, and you pay nothing. If you lose your shirt, you lose exactly as much as you would have if there were zero CGT.

You can't have a casino without a house edge. I think you'd want the government to have a piece of the action. But instead you're saying that too high a house edge means you won't gamble. We all know this is wrong. You're addicted, and all the other casinos are run by the mob and they tend to take the "winners" into the alley to kick the crap out of them. See Russia.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Cheney flip-flops again. Man, that psychopath will say anything to get re-elected.

This is tongue and cheek right?

yes -- t.s.

But on this note, why is it presumed that the 9/11 commisison way is the best way?

you're not allowed to considered the merits of someone's positions when you accuse them of flip-flopping -- after all, they're bound to be right half the time

[Tyrone Slothrop]

When conservatives fail to attack Alan Keyes for carpetbagging in the same way that they went after Hillary Rodham Clinton just a few years ago, they'll be treating him with kid gloves because he's black, right?

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
When conservatives fail to attack Alan Keyes for carpetbagging in the same way that they went after Hillary Rodham Clinton just a few years ago, they'll be treating him with kid gloves because he's black, right?

That depends. Will the CBC decide this time around that he isn't an "Uncle Tom" because his opponent is also black?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
That depends. Will the CBC decide this time around that he isn't an "Uncle Tom" because his opponent is also black?

How do you find the time to watch the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation? Your multi-tasking skills never cease to amaze me.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by sgtclub
you're not allowed to considered the merits of someone's positions when you accuse them of flip-flopping -- after all, they're bound to be right half the time

You realize that this is a flip flop in name only, just like Lieberman's on hollywood when he was running for VP.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How do you find the time to watch the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation? Your multi-tasking skills never cease to amaze me.

I assume he meant the congressional black caucus, or were you kidding?