Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Good argument for the Sunday talk shows. Remember to say it loudly and defiantly, though, preferably with a sneer and with the chest thrust outward. Without that, I don't know if Russert will be able to keep a straight face.

I have rather perky large breast implants. If I thrust my chest outward, Tim might lose an eye.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I will be shocked if there is an amendment to undo this decision. Basically, polling runs 2:1 in favor of gay marriage in Massachusetts, and there are very few strong opponents of it.

Heard on the news this morning that 48% are in favor of the amendment. Not sure what the percentage requirement is, and don't really have a strong interest in the result, so those are just the facts as I understand them.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Globe ran a poll about a week after the first decision.

But you can sense it around here. When the decision is talked about, very few people say anything negative and when they do, most people just smile and humor them.

this makes sense just from a survival instinct. Remember, in Mass. heterosexual dating with prominent males often ends up with the lady being drowned.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Now, what's your man Bush going to do about it? Isn't this a time when you'd like Tipper in there?

There's Lynn.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Globe ran a poll about a week after the first decision.

Read this about the Boston Globe poll you are talking about :

http://www.massnews.com/2003_Edition...blematic.shtml

"Globe Ombudsman Admits 'Poll' on Gay Marriage Was 'Problematic'

But They Won't Do Anything about It"

All the "non-problematic" polls I read show it as an almost 50:50 split in MA. You are far overstating the support for gay marriage in MA.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Heard on the news this morning that 48% are in favor of the amendment.

That is more in-line with the polls I have seen.

GGG is quoting a discredited poll conducted by a liberal rag. See link in my post above.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Not Me
I have rather perky large breast implants. If I thrust my chest outward, Tim might lose an eye.

I think I just passed out.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Globe ran a poll about a week after the first decision.

But you can sense it around here. When the decision is talked about, very few people say anything negative and when they do, most people just smile and humor them.

Interesting. national coverage would lead one to believe otherwise.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Not Me
That is more in-line with the polls I have seen.

GGG is quoting a discredited poll conducted by a liberal rag. See link in my post above.

Humorous little website you cited to. So the poll was inaccurate because the question asked was one of many? Or because your rag didn't like the wording?

But, as I've said before, polls have their uses and those uses are limited. I would say that sentiment in even the more conservative and Catholic areas around here is not in favor of an amendment - with many people just not caring. Stay tuned and see what the election results look like, after all the sermonizing happens.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Interesting. national coverage would lead one to believe otherwise.

I have no doubt national sentiment is opposed. Also no doubt that you will hear some political heavyweights around here speaking out against it, particularly Romney but several on the Democratic side (including Kerry). But those voices are intended for a different audience.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
But, as I've said before, polls have their uses and those uses are limited.

But yet you use the results of this one problematic poll to boldy proclaim "[g]ay marriage is now a done deal."

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I have no doubt national sentiment is opposed.

He didn't say national sentiment. He said national coverage.

The local coverage by the Boston Globe and other liberal media establishments in MA* slant the issue to make it look like there is more support than there is. You have to go to the national news sources to be able to get less biased information about what is going on in MA.

* Are there any other kind in Taxachusettes?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Cheney owns Haliburton, not the entire US Gov't; its not "at his expense." That's like saying Scalia shouldn't be on any case with Bush in it, because bush pays for the big marble building where scalia's office is.

Agreed. Now whether he should have been transported at taxpayer's expense to a duck hunting trip, though, is a different issue.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Humorous little website you cited to. So the poll was inaccurate because the question asked was one of many? Or because your rag didn't like the wording?

Apparently you didn't click on the link or didn't bother to read the article. This was just one of the problems with the BG poll

"Is it true that the question on same sex marriage in a poll reported on in yesterday's Globe asked respondents whether they thought gay marriage should or should not be 'legally sanctioned'? If those words were used, then the phrasing of the poll question should have been reported as well to give Globe readers what I believe is necessary information about the poll's reliability.

"Using a word with two opposing meanings -- to sanction can mean to punish -- it could very well be that a majority of respondents would go so far as to support the punishment of same-sex unions, hardly a result in favor of same-sex marriage.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
particularly Romney but several on the Democratic side (including Kerry)

Mr. Kerry: If your daughter wanted to marry another woman, would you support her right to do so?